AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[iocedmyself]

Ingame bench Grand Theft Auto IV

[MarcoXX84]

Hello my name's Marco, I write from Italy.
Iocedmyself thank you for your great job
Do you tell us what graphic card have you used in your ingame bench GTA IV?


I have another question: what is the maximum temperature do you have for MAXIMUM LOAD in ALL 4 CORES? In example running Orthos or Prime95 for a few minutes...

Thank you a lot!

[ajaidev]

Iocedmyself thanks for the GTA4 bench.

If possible can you sink the settings to this :-

http://bbs.52hardware.com/attachment...jZJk8hLRCx.jpg

This is a screen of an i7 @ 3.6ghz with 4870x2, with this we can make a point to point comparison oh an i7@3.6 to an PhII @ 3.6

[iocedmyself]

Hey marco,

for gpu, using a 4870x2, stock clocks and cooling

Load temps @ 3.0ghz 1.35vcore are 34-35c in 23/24c ambient

Load temps @ 3.6ghz 1.3875 are 38c

And for comparison having voltage jacked way up past needed

Load temps @ 3.6 @ 1.6v are 46c

[ajaidev]

lo squartatore i allready asked IOCEDMYSELF to do a similar test against the i7 at 3.6Ghz

The best thing is the GPU is the same "4870 x2"!!!

Are you comparing this to the Q9550 result posted on Guru3D if so they used a different GPU 9800 GX2.

[MarcoXX84]

IOCEDMYSELF can u do a GTA 4 benchmark whit this setting :

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 36
Detail Distance: 100


CPU Phenom II at 3.4Ghz please.

Are more interesting the settings asks ajaidev two posts ago...
In that condition we have a comparison to Intel i7.
Be quite please.

[mongoled]

iocedmyself thanks for sharing, do you realise that if you post the benchmark results that ajaidev requested (welcome to the forums dude) that you will be one of the first persons not affiliated to AMD to post a DIRECT comparison with an i7, and all at Xtreme Systems



Just like the old days, XS bringing the breaking news



Look forward to seeing this comparison

[Oliverda]

Sigh been a long time since i used Everest, sad to say i forgot how you ran that benchmark and ended up running all the other benches and saving screenies before it dawned on me

Thanks a lot! What was the NB clock? 2.0 or 2.2?

[iocedmyself]

Damn close, saving grace for Phenom II is that there is still headroom to overclock where i7 has been shown to have difficulty going past 3.6 on air, with 4ghz far out of reach

[annton]

can you do the gta4 test again at 1280x1024 using 75Hz refresh rate? or 60/75Hz make no difference?

[iocedmyself]

Thanks a lot! What was the NB clock? 2.0 or 2.2?

NB clock was at 2ghz

Btw regarding view distance in GTA IV it relates to how much video ram is used, @ 1920x1200 view distance of 32 takes Vram utilization to 984 megs i believe, which is orange warning for Vram load.

can you do the gta4 test again at 1280x1024 using 75Hz refresh rate? or 60/75Hz make no difference?

Using a 24inch LCD so RR70 would be best i could do, but doesn't make any difference as i don't have Vsynch enabled.

[ajaidev]

view distance is low so that limited video memory does not. GTA4 is very buggy when it eats up all the video RAM. So to limit the score problem with respect to ram the view distance was low.

Oh forgot the results are really great with respect to Intel QX series and does not do bad at all as compared to the all mighty i7's!!

[informal]

iocedmyself thanks for sharing the results
I wonder if the fps would go a bit up if NB clock was 2.2 or 2.4Ghz .Either way very nice score for a Phenom II

[informal]

The I7 use 42% ( 2*21% for HT tecnology ) !!!!!
Deneb use 70% !!!!

The cpu is not used whit these setting !

Bollocks for the "not used comment".It's 12x10 resolution,in what lower resolution you want them to test the game?640x480 ?

[ajaidev]

lo squartatore read this:-


To check the performance of the CPUs, we use our "Promenade” benchmark. In this is, due to heavy traffic, many pedestrians and a far view distance, quite challenging for the processor and rather representing for GTA 4 since you will spend a lot of time on the street. Because we don't want to repress the frame rate too much, we use maximal details but reduce the range of visibility to 50 percent - a value reserved to graphics cards with 1,024 MiByte VRAM according to Rockstar's in-game presets.

taken from pcgameshardware.com

[ajaidev]

It has been said and rumored that 10-25 is what you would see in a typical console yes the xbox 360 and ps3.

The detail on the other hand is at 70 and is what counts.

[iocedmyself]

3.0 ghz, 2ghz NB 2ghz HT 50 draw distance 100 detail distance 1280x1024

3.0 ghz, 2ghz NB 2ghz HT 70 draw distance 100 detail distance 1280x1024

3.0 ghz, 2ghz NB 2ghz HT 47 draw distance 100 detail distance 1920x1200

3.6 ghz, 2ghz NB 2ghz HT 79 draw distance 100 detail distance 100 car density 16 shadow density 800x600

3.6 ghz, 2ghz NB 2ghz HT 34 draw distance 100 detail distance 100 car density 16 shadow density 1920x1200

[iocedmyself]

3.6ghz 3dmark 06 1920x1200

Don't recall off hand what score i got with 9850, and i'm unsure as to whether or not the PCI-E slot is running as gen 2.0 or not , but thought i'd share regardless

[Halk]

Right. Now someone compare those benchies to an i7 running the same graphics card and clock speed...

[iocedmyself]

can u ask you a Crysis or crysis warhead DX9 benchmark ?

1605 x 1050 or 1280 x 1024 in enthusiams for warhead or high for Crysis
AA 0x

it's the most important test

Have to reinstall it and then i'll bench dx9 and 10. Though i have to say that i don't consider DX9 very accurate measurment as ATI 4800 cards do vastly better in DX10 where Nvidia is more geared towards DX9.

[Zucker2k]

Have to reinstall it and then i'll bench dx9 and 10. Though i have to say that i don't consider DX9 very accurate measurment as ATI 4800 cards do vastly better in DX10 where Nvidia is more geared towards DX9.

Thanks iocedmyself, great work you're doing here. That first score at 3.6Ghz didn't look pretty for the phenom II though, as it was 22% percent i7 (no one in their right mind would turn HT on for gaming, that anomally is well established), vs Phenom II 70%. Am I the only one noticing that huge gap? Are you sure no other process was stealing huge cpu cycles? Good job man, keep up the good work.

[iocedmyself]

3.4ghz 2ghz NB & HT view 34 detail 100 @ 1680x1050 @ 60hz

[demonkevy666]

hey iocedmyself any differences when running 64 bit ?

[donitsi]

Phenom II 940 preorder 279,90€ (FINLAND)
ETA 7th of January 2009

940 http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/p...o.php?id=31641

920 http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/p...o.php?id=31559

[iocedmyself]

Well this is what i get if i set affinity to ONE CORE, with view distance 22 and detail distance 70 @ 3ghz. So if i7 has 8 threads to toy with....not that difficult to see how you could get 22% with 60fps when there is the core shutdown stuff. But regardless it's not about how much of the CPU is utilized it's the performance you get out of it.