AMD Phenom II and Dragon Preview Event - Invite Only

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do you mean a 7 day stability test? ...um, sorry i must've misplaced that screenshot... you're right, i just did a 10 pass IBT and then proceeded to use.
and no winter air, this was a few months ago ( i think?) with closed windows.

Like I stated an average chip as yours via your claims appears to be better than all the decent core 2 duo's on air does 3.6 air with the best air cooling possible.

If i had to guess deneb probably need's 600mhz over non xtreme I7's to be competitive which is why its priced there. It appears from what ive seen those average 4.2 on air, while this is an advantage it also appears from what i've read ( and I mentioned this to movieman quite some time ago ) that with the inclusion of an onboard MMC it also brought some form of coldbug. Juries still out IMO.

This leaves a perfect oppurtunity for AMD and I think they knew this and have exploited it.

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Like I stated an average chip as yours via your claims appears to be better than all the decent core 2 duo's on air does 3.6 air with the best air cooling possible.

If i had to guess deneb probably need's 600mhz over non xtreme I7's to be competitive which is why its priced there. It appears from what ive seen those average 4.2 on air, while this is an advantage it also appears from what i've read ( and I mentioned this to movieman quite some time ago ) that with the inclusion of an onboard MMC it also brought some form of coldbug. Juries still out IMO.

This leaves a perfect oppurtunity for AMD and I think they knew this and have exploited it.

I don't want to turn this into a VS thread asi don't think either of us are. I think we agree that AMD will be most competitive with intel in extreme cooling, and unless intel works some stepping magic, a 6.3 benchable PII will likely beat out a 5.1 Ci7, which is i believe the highest we're seeing 3d stable.
but lets continue this on friday

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cool you'll be there? c-ya there.

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I don't want to turn this into a VS thread asi don't think either of us are.

Agreed

a 6.3 benchable PII will likely beat out a 5.1 Ci7, which is i believe the highest we're seeing 3d stable.

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You believe the performance delta is this big? From what I have been reading this seems way off. Ofcourse all will be revealed soon

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Keeps the reviews coming guys, things are looking good