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    it is looping now, after a ati stream expert session

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    Quote Originally Posted by clonez View Post
    wow, this looks great
    more game benchies @ 3.5-4 ghz, pleeeease

    looks like amd will get some of my money in january...

    edit: does anybody know more about idle power consumption (and is able to tell)? those temps make me hope....

    3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by initialised View Post
    3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.
    Nice to see the 920 clocking just as well.......thanks for the info
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    Google shopping came up with this, I couldn't get to the actual product page, price is equivalent to i7 920.





    Link to vendor: http://www.google.co.uk/product_url?...hl=en&sa=title
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    [QUOTE



    4 cores ... yey[/QUOTE]

    I've looked at the video some times now especially the benching part.
    The voltage set for 6,3Ghz is from what i've seen is 1,963 Volt.

    When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.

    All i what to say is get me some decent air benches
    But nomather what i'll be getting a 940
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    The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen (@ initialised). Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboDiv View Post
    The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen (@ initialised). Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks.
    Now we talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboDiv View Post
    The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen, Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks.
    I believe it's in the pics folder, I'll have to check the NDA first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by initialised View Post
    3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.
    Cpu-z spefication in the picture says it's 920

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koekerwauz_NL View Post

    When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.
    Is this true?

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    Dont know, my AOD had this aweomse feature not to show when I selected a box or not. So it was a last minute show whether all cores were set or not Seriously, my AOD on DFI board wouldnt like save anything. Couldnt even use ACC and NB clocking/Voltages

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    [QUOTE=Koekerwauz_NL;3489963]
    I've looked at the video some times now especially the benching part.
    The voltage set for 6,3Ghz is from what i've seen is 1,963 Volt.

    When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.

    All i what to say is get me some decent air benches
    But nomather what i'll be getting a 940

    Holy suicidal destruct-o-core! 2v?!?? Why not just stick a molex connector in the back of the CPU socket? That's rediculous.

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    [QUOTE=T_Flight;3490140]
    Quote Originally Posted by Koekerwauz_NL View Post




    Holy suicidal destruct-o-core! 2v?!?? Why not just stick a molex connector in the back of the CPU socket? That's rediculous.
    We have been hearing about 1.9v OC's for a week now. the 3.9 on air was at 1.54 and somone that was there said the AMD guy stated that was well within Denebs safe limit. With that the 1.9 doesnt sound that rediculous.

    Edit: Whats the deal with the quote buton all the sudden? broken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    Is this true?
    check the video and see for your self.

    rechecked it myself it appears to be 2 cores are set

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    well yes he used core 0 for 6GHz and core 1 for the next step: 6,1GHz, would that mean 2 out of 4 cores where at +6Ghz?
    And y did CPU-Z show the 6100Mhz after he set the core-1 multi to 6,1 GHz without changing the Core in cpu-z? or did he?
    It always shows Core#0 at CPU-Z. so if he only changed Core-Multi-1 y should CPU-Z show Core#0 at 6,1GHz and not still 6,0GHz
    I hope u get what i mean .. kinda hard to explain for me sry..
    so maybe this was for all 4 cores? AOD bug?

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    Whats up with that core 3 voltage, 0.9V? 0.8V?

    Ah, 800Mhz.

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    So can these Phenom II clock their cores independently or not?
    This could be a very good thing, we could have 2 higher-clocked cores for "hard work" and 2 lower-clocked cores for backup. This way we could allow higher clocks\less heat\less consumption for the CPU and have a boost on single\dual-threaded applications.

    Better that this is only having Cool'n'Quiet working independently for each core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz View Post
    So can these Phenom II clock their cores independently or not?
    This could be a very good thing, we could have 2 higher-clocked cores for "hard work" and 2 lower-clocked cores for backup. This way we could allow higher clocks\less heat\less consumption for the CPU and have a boost on single\dual-threaded applications.

    Better that this is only having Cool'n'Quiet working independently for each core.
    I would say thats a yes, The 65nm phenoms clock independently by multi's.
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    Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
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    Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
    Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
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    Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
    Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
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    Sounds reasonable enough...this has been an exciting year with tech so far...next year might be just as fun...reasons why compition is good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
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    Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
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    Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
    Thanks for reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
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    Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
    Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
    Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
    Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
    Thanks for reading.
    Way to go, please keep up the great work I've been following the thread and have gotten quite a bit out of it.
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    I'm looking forward to this launch, hopefully AMD can get some good stuff out and I can build another rig.
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    the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

    the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macci View Post
    the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

    the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.
    Thank you for the info macci.
    Is this tool available for public use? Can it make use of the other three p-state registers?

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