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spill the beans man spill the beans
charles
spill the beans man spill the beans
For those unfamiliar or familiar with the area there is a best buy we could all park at and carpool from a mile away, I have a feeling parking is going to be a pain knowing the area fairly well.
The one off of frontage rd, Enjoy you most likely know exactly where i'm talking about.
14 Allstate Rd Dorchester, MA 02125
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It's not that hard to guess.It can't be lower than Phenom I per clock,which scores ~4000 in Vista at 3Ghz.In XP,Phenom scores 10% better(~4400pts),Vista kills the CPU score for some reason when Phenom is in question.Originally Posted by FUGGER
So if it was Vista(like i suspect),than the CPU score at 6Ghz should be somewhere between 8200 and 8500 points,assuming 6% better IPC than Agena and 96% efficiency in scaling with clock from 3 to 6GHz.Am i close?
Want to plan on that then?
Does someone have a large enough vehicle to car pool. I have just a little two door RSX. But that'd be cool to meet up close by and carpool in.
Formerly XIP, now just P.
I have access to a gmc express 3500 cargo van, not the most comfortable but its just a quick ride over. LMK
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It's not that hard to guess.It can't be lower than Phenom I per clock,which scores ~4000 in Vista at 3Ghz.In XP,Phenom scores 10% better(~4400pts),Vista kills the CPU score for some reason when Phenom is in question.
So if it was Vista(like i suspect),than the CPU score at 6Ghz should be somewhere between 8200 and 8500 points,assuming 6% better IPC than Agena and 96% efficiency in scaling with clock from 3 to 6GHz.Am i close?
Is it because Vista has the TLB Patch enabled by default?
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Dang, it's only 40 min from me, but I have to work. Straight shot down I93.
If you win a Phenom II you don't have to worry at all.If I win a phenom II when i go I will be holding some form of contest for those not fortunate enough to go as I have no plans to use a ddrII variant unless its on a reference motherboard which at this point in time I do not think I will have access to.
Stay tuned
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is it disabled with service pack 1.
maybe that's why I only score 4,000 cpu points in @3.0ghz
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You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Early Retail PII 940 tests
He's gonna be trying on water later.
oooh, exciting.
if retail phenom on avg all of these are capable of such speeds, this will be the chip to have =) I cant wait!!!!
I just have to figure out what mobo to pair it with.
I just sent thru a request that they take one of the air cooled machines and set up BOINC on it and run the WCG HCC project on it.
That would show a very real world comparison to the Intel based systems.
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Real world to you, not at all to me
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As long as he folds with it that will be ok as that will be part of the criteria for the contest.If you win a Phenom II you don't have to worry at all.
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If all the cores are at 100% load and working a problem(WU) thats real world as much as encoding or anything else I can think of.Real world to you, not at all to me
check and mate.
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with a side by side comparison maybe
i could haul up a chip
So it's the 20th of December? I asked my shop and they said January...
I've just gone and bought a throwaway AM2 CPU so I can get a new board and memory etc set up and on water for the 940 coming out.
I could bring my i7-965 system at 3733mhz but at this level these guys would laugh at me. I setup for long term stability not max bench.with a side by side comparison maybe
i could haul up a chip
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And of course everyone who buys a new processor is intended to use it at 100% load all the time.If all the cores are at 100% load and working a problem(WU) thats real world as much as encoding or anything else I can think of.
check and mate.
Real world =/= maximum load. Real world = internet, gaming, video editing, ...
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That is true and I do agree with you on that point BUT to gage the effectiveness of a processor or shall we say rate it against others the only reasonable way to do so is to have both run the same app and compare them.. As in the benchmarks that we run.
I assume your familar with benchmarks?
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thenagain this demonstration is drawing heavily on a crowd that has a large interest/fixation with DC. a demo in this capacity would go a long way in promoting this launch with the DC community.
i've got 20x200 stable at 1.3v, cpu can also bench at 5.0+.
But i'm not anticipating intel hardware demos being introduced so last minute.
I didn't say that the benchmark you suggested is not a decent benchmark, I just said that your claim as it being "very real world comparison" isn't always correct.That is true and I do agree with you on that point BUT to gage the effectiveness of a processor or shall we say rate it against others the only reasonable way to do so is to have both run the same app and compare them.. As in the benchmarks that we run.
I assume your familar with benchmarks?
Next to the obvious fact that everyone has a different opinion regarding what benchmarks should be used to measure performance and how those measurements should be compared, there are much more other factors to take into account if you want a real world comparison: price, heatload, idle power drawing, availability and so on.
I'd say that your BOINC benchmark would give a fairly good indication of what this CPU can do in comparison to an Intel alternative. However, scoring lower doesn't mean it's worse, even in your benchmark. If it's 25% slower, but 50% cheaper, you could buy two and have a 50% faster platform
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Me personally I don't think although i could be wrong that deneb is meant to go head to head with i7 clock per clock. This is just based on an educated guess based on suggested retail price and current retail prices of the I920. Etc retail 3.0 deneb suggested ball park $300 I920 $300.
I would love to see how it compares to current intel quads however especially q9550 being priced in its range, If asked I would bring my current rig for a head to head comparison on air.
I'm thinking that Amd most definitely has the edge here with what apears to be a majority of cpu's stable @ 4.0 on air while most struggle for 3.6 on air with intel.
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Actually the benchmark inside BOINC is a useless thing.
It is the timeframe required to do the work itself that shows the true power of any cpu.
I also can't think of any better way to measure a cpu's effectiveness than researching the ways to cure disease.
I know that I'm in the minority on that point on this forum where there are over 80,000 members and maybe 2000 that do this type of work but thats how I feel.
That is correct and we agree on this.
There's more to total cost than the chip itself.I'd say that your BOINC benchmark would give a fairly good indication of what this CPU can do in comparison to an Intel alternative. However, scoring lower doesn't mean it's worse, even in your benchmark. If it's 25% slower, but 50% cheaper, you could buy two and have a 50% faster platform
Two system require additional space, a second PSU,hard drive,etc so many times the more expensive cpu can be a lesser total cost when all the factors are included.
This is why I buy server grade equipment not gaming systems.
Many benefits that more than offset the initial cost.
They don't break down like gaming systems do.
They require less maintainence than gaming systems.
I have 2-8 core clovertown machines here that have run at 100% load since December 2006 and with the exception of a 35 hour downtime to electrical loss from an ice storm are at 100% load 24/7..
That's TWO years at 100% load 24/7..
There simply is no gaming machine that will do this that I have seen.
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