AMD Shows Deneb (Phenom II) pictures of 6.2GHz CPUz etc

[Hornet331]

more cores = more bandwidth needed, no?
because each core is fighting for it

Your mixing up intercore bandwidth with memory bandwidth... and for what do they need to fight?

For 95% of desktop apps a C2 with a "antique " fsb is enough. The only desktop apps that benefit for massive memory bandwidth are file archivers and encryption.

[Rammsteiner]

Yeah that's why I meant in fact, I can see that some AM2+ users will get some new life... I just hope it performs... sadly for AMD not many high performance Intel S775 users will jump on Phenom II ( unless they got some more nice surprises in the sleeve )

Let's hope that AMD puts the CPU's out at very competitive prices... as many might still be tempted to use S775.

Looking from my point of view (hardware wise) I just might replace the Striker to mess with one of these... just to have something new

Will there be much gain with AM3 over AM2+ ( I lost track of AMD innovations long time ago) performance wise ?

Ah that way. Yeah, AMD platform is cheaper, but it ain't if you move from a skt 775 just for Deneb and get the same performance

Amd promised a 3-5% gain with the switch to DDR3 form DDR2, but tbh i dont belive this. We didn't saw any appreciable increasments from DDR to DDR2, on intel it was even worse from DDR2 to DDR3. Bandwidth playes an underpart for Desktop apps.

I dont know really. 5% is quite a bit of a jump. However, did AMD said this or FUD?

Anyway, I dont think it's comparable to Intel's move from DDR2 to DDR3. There's a reason i7 uses QPI

[Tiridum]

Your mixing up intercore bandwidth with memory bandwidth... and for what do they need to fight?

well let's assume a cpu has 10GB/s of bandwidth available, so each core (on average) has 2.5GB/s in mulithreaded apps, i this enough to feed the core with data?

[Shintai]

well let's assume a cpu has 10GB/s of bandwidth available, so each core (on average) has 2.5GB/s in mulithreaded apps, i this enough to feed the core with data?

Thats very unlikely. Plus there is the caches to remove external bandwidth demand.