so how is it possible auto and the next value r equal in the reading columns, is that because the value below "auto" is the value measured while the setting was on auto or what?
so how is it possible auto and the next value r equal in the reading columns, is that because the value below "auto" is the value measured while the setting was on auto or what?
I haven't verified the lowest value anymore as I hardly use it. But with early biosses AUTO and lowest value where the same, on a german forum users have measured with a DMM and told that the lowest value seems to be correct now ( with a slight overvoltage ) so eg 1.5 is 1.51 measured...
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currently almost all of my settings r set to auto, is there any danger of frying anything at this clock (3.4) because of overvolting issues?
I would say YES there's a danger, probably more danger of frying the mobo rather than the CPU... try to set manually plzOriginally Posted by x3mgamer
currently almost all of my settings r set to auto, is there any danger of frying anything at this clock (3.4) because of overvolting issues?
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is it safe to use the values Cryptik gave me or r those values reserved only for the 3.6 clock ?
Tim's settings are safe... try them and try to lower each voltage setting as low as possible...
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thank u kind sir
ok what i did now was lower the voltages one notch above minimum and enabling LLC and disabling CPU and PCIE spread spectrum, the setup looks like this now:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-6
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
C/P : A1 A2 A3 | B1 B2 B3
LVL : 09 09 09 | 09 09 09
CPU Voltage: 1.14375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.12
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
i didnt touch gtl voltages or references coz i presume they wont overvolt above safe values or will they, is there anything out of the ordinary with this setup or is it safe for 24/7 use?
x3mgamer The FSB voltage looks a little low I thought 1.20v was the default setting on this board? How's the stabillity?
I'm running my Q9550 2.83GHz @ 3.4GHz
Thanks for all the help guys, I've taken advice from a few different posts and I'm now rock solid stable...
Here's how my system is setup now:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1060
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-15-5-55-8-5
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 8
Read to Precharge Time: 5
2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-5-4-6
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6
3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
DRAM Read Training: enabled
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
common performance level = 8
CPU Voltage: 1.22500v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63x
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.63x
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24v
DRAM Voltage: 2.02v
NB Voltage: 1.20v
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: 1.20v
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60v
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
hey gazmatrix,
minimum fsb termination voltage is 1.10, thats one notch above auto, and i used 2 notches above auto, therefore 1.12, blend still fails no matter what, i should probably give up trying to get stable in blend
Last edited by x3mgamer; 12-03-2008 at 01:18 PM.
I'm running a very similar system to you, try the setings I'm using above, my temps are well within safe limits and my cooler is not the best (Zalman 9700) Idle is around 51c and load is 63c running LinX...
How much ram are you using 4GB or 8GB?
I'm not too sure on the FSB being 1.10, but I found this on the FSB/VTT:
vFSB/VTT: From 1.24V onwards the VTT is perfectly acceptable. However, the auto and 1.20V settings are quite high.
This is taken from here: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html
Cheers Gaz
Your NB voltage is waaaaaaayyy to low for that OC... no wonder Blend always fails : try the above plz
If still no go try
CPU Voltage: 1.14375 --> 1.2
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52 --> 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12 --> 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.12 --> 1.24
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
That should work for sure
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 12-03-2008 at 01:49 PM.
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leeghoofd can you post ur bios settings for your e8500 as well
Best clocks so far
Code:CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO FSB Frequency: 487 PCI-E Frequency: 101 DRAM Frequency: 1298 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO DRAM Timing Control: AUTO 1st Information : CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 5 RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO Write Recovery Time: AUTO Read to Precharge Time: AUTO 2nd Information : READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO 3rd Information : WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO READ to PRE Delay: AUTO PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled DRAM Read Training: AUTO MEM. OC Charger: AUTO AI Clock Twister: AUTO AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL Common Performance Level [8] Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED CPU Voltage: 1.40 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .675 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .675 CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58 FSB Termination Voltage: 1.42 DRAM Voltage: 2.22 NB Voltage: 1.42 NB GTL Reference: AUTO SBridge Voltage: AUTO PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO Load Line Calibration: ENABLED CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled CPU Clock Skew : Normal NB Clock Skew : Normal
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Sure mate my 24/7 setting 8 x 500, I'm not much of a ram tweaker as I notice not much in day to day apps so I just set def timings and try to get a decent acceptable bandwith
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: LIGHT
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
C/P : A1 A2 A3 | B1 B2 B3
LVL : 09 09 09 | 09 09 09
CPU Voltage: 1.2 (CPU only requires 1.19 for 4ghz ops)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 1.92 (ram needs 2.0 volts)
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
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im using 8 GB corsair dominator 8500CD5F 1066 ram, this ram guy at corsair forums said this:
The only DDR2 DRAM modules that are supported in a four module configuration are the Quad packages.
This does not mean that they will not work. It just means that there is no support for RMA of such configurations. Because you are populating four DRAM slotsp, this changes the dynamic of the system in comparison to populating with two DRAM slots. You are advised to drop the DRAM bandwidth and raise the Northbridge Memory Controller voltage +.2v to achieve stability with a four DRAM slot population.
Quote:
I guess i should mention, i reboot etc fine once it runs the 8gb.
It's when i have powered off the comp and restarting it after some hours i get the no boot issue.
There are issues that will arise in the longer term. You are already seeing inconsistency and it will not get better in the longer term. As long as you do not overvolt the DRAM (2.1v) you will not damage it, however, you can and many often do damage the motherboard memory controller (Intel) if you do not raise the MCH voltage and lower the DRAM speed. Sooner or later you will shut the system down, and it will not start.
The other alternative is to overclock the CPU, thus concurrently clocking up the memory controller which allows you to access higher data throughput to the DRAM.
basicaly what hes saying is over time my mb will die coz there r 4 slots populated
Last edited by x3mgamer; 12-03-2008 at 02:21 PM.
I use a M2F now, bit this is what I ran when using the P5Q-Deluxe. I use D9 based ram so you may need looser timings & or more voltage with other types of ram - with 2 x 2GB sticks I'd recommend 5-5-5-15-5-55-8-5 primary timings, 8-3-5-4-5-4-6 secondaries and 14-5-1-6-6 tertiaries at 2.0 - 2.1v. Also if you use 2x2GB you may need more vNB than I gave in the template.
Code:AI Overclock tuner: Manual CPU Ratio Setting: 9 FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 FSB Frequency: 445 PCI-E Frequency: 100 DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1069 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal DRAM Timing Control: manual 1st Information : 5-5-4-12-3-30-6-3 CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4 DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12 RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3 Row Refresh Cycle Time: 30 Write Recovery Time: 6 Read to Precharge Time: 3 2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-6 READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7 Write to Read Delay (S): 3 WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5 READ to READ Delay (S): 4 READ to READ Delay (D): 5 WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4 WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6 3rd Information : 14-5-1-5-5 WRITE to PRE Delay: 14 READ to PRE Delay: 5 PRE to PRE Delay: 1 ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5 ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5 DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Enabled MEM. OC Charger: Enabled AI Clock Twister: Stronger AI Transaction Booster: Manual common performance level = 8 CPU Voltage: 1.34v - 1.35v (I need 1.336 load for 4GHz your cpu may differ) CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.67x CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.67x CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52v FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25v DRAM Voltage: 1.94v NB Voltage: 1.32v (my board undervolted giving 1.31 real) NB GTL Reference: Auto SBridge Voltage: 1.2v PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5v Load Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled CPU Clock Skew : Normal NB Clock Skew : Normal CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Last edited by CryptiK; 12-03-2008 at 02:33 PM.
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Who wrote that RamGuy ? well 8gb complicates it ofcourse... Try the settings below then first with 4GB and actively cool them rams with a dominator fan or eg an Antec spotcool (I use the latter as it cools the rams and blows some fresh air on the NB too)
First run small FFT's to see if the CPU is stable, blend later on for ram an co
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: LIGHTER
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
common performance level : 10
CPU Voltage: 1.15
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.26 al the way up to 1.3
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 12-03-2008 at 02:41 PM.
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
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unfortunately both sets of Leeghoofd settings failed to get stability, the second set (vcore 1.2) prolonged the stability for 5 mins but it still failed after 7 mins
ill try Gazmatrix's setup next
Try with 4g first mate to determine CPU stability, if small FFT passes then it's time to mes with blend... first things first (try the above plz)
Also you can try with eg HCI Memtest in windows to test the ram seperately... could also be one dimm is flakey...
8GB can be done it's no problem, even without going nuts on volts
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 12-03-2008 at 02:49 PM.
this is not fair at all
it turns out Gazmatrix's setup manages to make Blend stable!
but at what ridiculous price!
my core temps go to 73 now , measured by everest under blend and i should point out i had this 3.4 clock stable at only 1.1375 vcore whereas now with gazmatrix's vcore of 1.22500 i get blend stable but temps go thru the roof, i wanna get blend stable with that ultimate low voltage i used before (1.1375 and a C1 revision!!), but the question is, if i lower the vcore to 1.1375 and keep all gazmatrix's settings , should i lower gtl voltage references too and other voltages?
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3465998]You prolly need a bit more NB voltage to stabilize again, could also be to put 9 PL level... one thing is for sure : your rams will appreciate active cooling and are you sure you can fit 4 reapers in there ? Secondly you need 1.36 VTT ? didn't you mean 1.26 or such ?
Yeah, Im trying to stabilize now. Im trying for 1.3NBv or 1.32NBv. I may need to go to a 9PL, thanks for the idea. Its a tight fit but there in there. With the fans in my case they stay pretty cool even in Linpack. My rig sounds like a wind tunnel. The thing that sucks is that OCZ apparently redesigned the reapers. Thet are using different heat spreaders, but dont look too different. The main problem is that when I got my sticks and looked at the sticker on the spreaders I noticed that they are made to run at 2.2v! I dont know if they are using different ICs or what, but I need to play around to get stable. Yeah, my chip loves vtt, its not the best performing chip in the world. My corev is also like 1.43 in bios! For a 440fsb! Ill upgrade one of these days. That q9550 looks tempting.
I had a couple of questions back on my post #4644, and have a couple more, if someone wants to take a shot at them.
Is there any real benefit to enabling the Static Read Control?
What's the final verdict on the operation/options for CPU Margin Enhancement?
The lower FSB Strap to North Bridge performs better on other boards, is there a specific reason most of you are leaving it AUTO on the P5Q?
I keep seeing a recommendation of 55 for the Row Refresh Cycle Time, again is there a specific reason to leave it loose on the P5Q?
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1) use realtemp or coretemp to properly readout the values ( verify the corrrect TJcasemax : Everest is probably reading 5°C too much )this is not fair at all
it turns out Gazmatrix's setup manages to make Blend stable!
but at what ridiculous price!
my core temps go to 73 now , measured by everest under blend and i should point out i had this 3.4 clock stable at only 1.1375 vcore whereas now with gazmatrix's vcore of 1.22500 i get blend stable but temps go thru the roof, i wanna get blend stable with that ultimate low voltage i used before (1.1375 and a C1 revision!!), but the question is, if i lower the vcore to 1.1375 and keep all gazmatrix's settings , should i lower gtl voltage references too and other voltages?
2) you claim stability based on what ? if the CPU is stable at small FFT ( at least 8 hours) I can hardly imagine you need to up Vcore to 1.225 to get blend stablity
3) You need to take these templates as a guideline, final tweaking is for you, if you are 100% sure 1.1375 made the CPU stable before, why not try 1.21Vcore and properly adjust PLL and FSB Term voltages...and try go down...
Each CPU, mobo,ram, PSU combination is different and even though a template can work fine, it doesn't mean you cannot go lower on certain voltages...
Blend stability is also over a long period of time, you claim stability again based on what ? a 60 min run ?
4) Which cooler do you use on ya setup ?
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 12-03-2008 at 10:04 PM.
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