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    Quote Originally Posted by Pt1t View Post


    You have CPUZ screen in the youtube video

    I did program the CPUID myself, I may have done a typo ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    I did program the CPUID myself, I may have done a typo ...
    Does this mean that this specific product is not for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Does this mean that this specific product is not for sale?

    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
    And this is going into the books as a WR, leaving nothing but spoils of war for people that are going to try and catch up to this 45nm I7 record...

    False competition sucks, should atleast have called it an WTFBBQ 970 I7 or smth...

    [<= Belgian here]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BieBiep View Post
    And this is going into the books as a WR, leaving nothing but spoils of war for people that are going to try and catch up to this 45nm I7 record...

    False competition sucks

    [<= Belgian here] :p
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?


    Next step then => Intel should organize an OC-cup like mobo-manufacturers do, but everyone can take the mobo of his pleasing.

    Maybe then we'll get some real numbers on who's got the best quality mobo?
    (Superchips in every mobo must put the limit on the mobo rather than the chip?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?
    Come one man... It's your credibility on the line here. This thread and all others regarding this MEGA chip that is doing 5GHz on air, is reffering to i7 965. This is what people are talking about.
    I don't give a cent if FUGGER gets to upload his scores in HWBOT with these chips, this is not the point.
    The point is that several dedicated Intel consumers paid 1000 EUR to get a 965 retail chip and now they should feel like a beta testers...

    Since revision 5 chips were ready and SO close to rev. 4 chips' launch...

    Anyway, my EUROVISION points are going to Belgium next year...

    Edit: Oh, now I just checked your last post. So I guess you made a road trip to Vegas just to prove that AMD's session in Texas was with a MEGA cherry picked chip????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )

    You should consider a career in politics. You talk a lot but you never answered massman's question

    Will this kind of chips be for sale, ever?

    You're saying they use today's selling chip's settings but yet in another post you just told you programmed the cpuid, thus making it different from the current retail chips, or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gendo View Post
    You should consider a career in politics. You talk a lot but you never answered massman's question

    Will this kind of chips be for sale, ever?

    You're saying they use today's selling chip's settings but yet in another post you just told you programmed the cpuid, thus making it different from the current retail chips, or am I wrong?
    Those are CPUs I have in my lab to play with, The point is clear , Manufacturer can do demos that does not reflect always what gets to the market! This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make from the beginning.

    I WARNED many time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    Well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
    There's a giant difference between special as in "what an awesome overclocker" and special as in "not available for costumers". In what range is this chip using the same settings as today's selling chips? If no one knows why this chip is so special, no one can accurately rate the excellence of this overclock and therefor only your manufacturers demo is pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    Those are CPUs I have in my lab to play with, The point is clear , Manufacturer can do demos that does not reflect always what gets to the market! This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make from the beginning.
    Sorry if I'm wrong here, but I think you need to rephrase that as: "AMD's demo does not reflect what gets to the market". I don't understand the point of this so called manufacturer's demo if the only information we get is that this particular chip is so special, that it's one of a kind. Doesn't that only prove that no one will be able to hit that kind of speeds through retail market?

    I don't really get why your special chip is only hitting 5G on air anyway. Rol-co already showed us his 4.8G chip on air. Using a special sample you only get 200MHz more?

    So many questions, so little answers ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    There's a giant difference between special as in "what an awesome overclocker" and special as in "not available for costumers". In what range is this chip using the same settings as today's selling chips? If no one knows why this chip is so special, no one can accurately rate the excellence of this overclock and therefor only your manufacturers demo is pointless.
    This is exactly the point we wanted to make , when a manufacturer demo OC, it does have resources that you ll never get ... making it unrealistic ...
    The point is that it is pointless, so, it is not pointless, see the point! lol!

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    I guess something is not being written as intended. The following quotes from Drwho? do not read the same as the posts that would have us believe the chip was a cherry-picked retail sample.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings.
    Special chips programmed with parameters from chips we can buy today. If these were retail chips would not these parameters be the correct ones already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    The above quote was made in response to a post stating that chips in the retail market would not be able to match this performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    Those are CPUs I have in my lab to play with, The point is clear , Manufacturer can do demos that does not reflect always what gets to the market! This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make from the beginning.

    I WARNED many time.
    This demonstration made a point that what a manufacturer can showcase may not be true in retail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    When I use special chips, I say it loud and clear, when it is normal chips, you ll see no special notes. I oppose very hard the special chip demos inside my own company, but I had to make a point that it is easy for a manufacturer to put a demo that shine, without really reflecting the market.
    Once again referencing that this demo does not reflect real word retail results.



    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    If I read Dr. Who?'s comments correctly then yes, these are chips you 'could" see in retail. That they are cherry picked but that normally these chips would have gone "down the line" been boxed and sold..
    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER View Post
    This was not a canned demo, it was a hard push to resolve issues and many things pointed out in this thread were covered to make processors even better.
    So what's the deal with the chip? Is it as Drwho? implies a specimen that is capable of performance exceeding the chips in the current retail market? Or as Movieman and FUGGER suggest a super chip pulled from the retail line? Shouldn't be difficult to state one way or the other. I think that is all that is being asked in this thread.

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