Micron D9 GMH\GKX\JKH etc club

[CryptiK]

Yes that's correct. If you want to see whats faster, run a SPI32M at 266 strap, then 400 strap, but the difference in mem speed is going to impact that too. I found that on the 266 strap on my M2F, I could not run a certain chipset enhancement on max, I had to back it off a bit. However with the 333 strap, I could run it on the most aggressive setting and even though I had 48MHz less ram speed, I was almost (within 100 mb/s) as good as on the 266 strap. I did not run SPI32M benches to test though.

I'm about to go insane with my board right now, what was stable is no longer stable, increasing/decreasing vcore & Vtt, backing off chipset enhancements, increasing PL, raising vdimm, nothing works. It's really annoying me. Couple that with the lack of ram overclocking ability this board has and I'm looking at getting rid of it. there is two boards I really like, and have to choose between, that's providing I can get rid of my M2F and P5Q-Deluxe (brand new in box) without loosing too much money.

[neo mike]

Ok i will try that test, that a very good idea, cause when i was on the 266 strap, at 510 fsb, i was getting 10,350 everest, memory was at 1270 i think, now im the 400 strap at 485 fsb, and 1280 memory, and its about 200 points lower, but im able to run a pl 7 on the 400 strap, and even though my score went down, my latency improved quite a bit, but i will try what you said.

Hey i have that happen you get a overclock, and it sticks for days, then you mess around, and try to go back and now it wont stick, i have saved ones in my bios, that works somedays, and others is trouble. Im getting a new board to, im going to lose money, unless i can find someone to buy it for cheap and get something back. Its tough to pick new board, there are alot of choices, but have been doing some serious reading of reviews, and checking threads here, its dfi ut 45 t2rs , or asus p5e3, seem to be 2 very good boards, if i can figure out how to shrink my photos in my digital camera, im going to put them in the for sale section, although it dont look like it gets alot of action.

[George_o/c]

Well, according to my tests, 266MHz strap is the best when it comes to benchmarking in general
I was playing with P5K Deluxe like one and a half month ago, and did some SPi 32M tests on 266MHz and 333MHz straps ... First one was slightly faster
But when I say "according to my tests", I don't mean only SPi 32M benching, 'cause it's just one bencmark and you can't come to a conclusion when your only fact is that one ... Thus, not only I benched SPi 1M & 32M and PiFast (ram timings/sub-timings do not have a great impact on wPrime, that's why I didn't even bother trying it, besides if you run it @ Vista or Server 2008, your score will improve in comparison with the XP one, so ), but also 3D benchmarks, and mostly 3DMark01 ...

But I didn't run any Everest tests, or use a specific strap in order to see its impact on 24/7 usage, therefore, you should not take my findings in consideration as far as 24/7 pc usage is concerned

[CryptiK]

yeah for sure running a whole suite of tests is the best way to ascertain which settings have greatest performance. i just suggested 32M as it's a better indicator than everest.

[neo mike]

Yeah i havent run any test really, i know that i really cant get much on the 333 strap, my memory, or computer, whatever dont like it, 266 and 400 works best for me, im going to run some benches on 266, and 400, and then stick with the fastest and best performance, im sure its the 266.

[Elektrosadist]

@ waterflex: I can't get any stability on my p45 with trd 8 @ FSB 500 with DDR2 1200. Even at a higher tRD. I can only run 1250,1333 or 1000 @ FSB 500.

Strange though cuz with my OCZ with Infinion chips i could run 1200 at FSB 500.

[WaterFlex]

Ok look on one hand you are undermining peoples overclocking achievements, and then later you say you will also try to make an xtreme clock.

When & if you do post an 'xtreme clock', would you expect support or do you want people saying its no good, and asking you if it can pass memtest? Be more supportive please, the aim here is not 24/7 stability with every screen shot we post. They are going to be stable enough for the bench we are doing, there's no point proving 24/7 stability and putting unnecessary strain on the ram when we do not intend to use it 24/7.

My bad, mate. Sorry

[WaterFlex]

@ waterflex: I can't get any stability on my p45 with trd 8 @ FSB 500 with DDR2 1200. Even at a higher tRD. I can only run 1250,1333 or 1000 @ FSB 500.

Strange though cuz with my OCZ with Infinion chips i could run 1200 at FSB 500.

You don`t have 5:6 devider? 1200 is not available or what?

Anyway, try to fix secondary timings: 9,4,5,6,6,5,6.
It`ll help, i`m sure.

[CryptiK]

Not a problem mate, just trying to keep this thread nice & friendly

Some boards just don't like certain dividers, for example I have found my M2F doesn't really like anything except the 5:6 divider when aiming for 32M or better stability.

[fatguy1992]

Straps change the chipset timings in relation to the FSB of the CPU being used. The lower the strap the tighter the timings and the better the performance. The strap also defines what memory speeds you have available to choose from.

When you leave the strap on auto, you just choose whatever memory speed you want from the list, and it auto sets the appropriate strap for the speed you chose.

Thanks i'll do my own test some time .

[Ket]

This thread just won't die will it? I never thought so many people still had Micron D9s, the fact people do pleases me easily the best ICs DDR2 will see. Shame D9s were not developed more otherwise we could have some real badass DDR2 right now.

[Elektrosadist]

You don`t have 5:6 devider? 1200 is not available or what?

Anyway, try to fix secondary timings: 9,4,5,6,6,5,6.
It`ll help, i`m sure.

1200 is available but like i said i couldn't get it stable to pass at least super pi, memtest not to mention.

i may try later to change the sec timings.

but i get for me the best performance at FSB 471 with DDR2 1256 (Performance lv 7, 5-5-4-12 and refresh cycle of 30 @ 2,26v.

[Big Lar]

Yes that's correct. If you want to see whats faster, run a SPI32M at 266 strap, then 400 strap, but the difference in mem speed is going to impact that too. I found that on the 266 strap on my M2F, I could not run a certain chipset enhancement on max, I had to back it off a bit. However with the 333 strap, I could run it on the most aggressive setting and even though I had 48MHz less ram speed, I was almost (within 100 mb/s) as good as on the 266 strap. I did not run SPI32M benches to test though.

I'm about to go insane with my board right now, what was stable is no longer stable, increasing/decreasing vcore & Vtt, backing off chipset enhancements, increasing PL, raising vdimm, nothing works. It's really annoying me. Couple that with the lack of ram overclocking ability this board has and I'm looking at getting rid of it. there is two boards I really like, and have to choose between, that's providing I can get rid of my M2F and P5Q-Deluxe (brand new in box) without loosing too much money.

Seems its the P45 Chipset that drives us insane. My board does the same thing, I'll run OCCT/Prime/memtest 3.8 and have a completely stable OC, however if I go back and rerun the tests they will fail immediately or close to that.

Almost seems like it is Heat related, but that is not the case here. I take temps with my Laser while testing and after to see how hot the NB/Mosfets/SB etc are. 32C is the max I get on the NB for instance,(very good cooling), with about 28C idle.

Funny thing is that if I wait an hour or so, reboot and try the exact same tests again, they pass? Not looking for help just a statement. Just a quirk in the chipset I believe. Again, seems heat related but does not show as such.

Larry

[neo mike]

I had the same problem running memtest86. Would pass with flying colors 3 full passes, try it a hour later get errors, i think at least my problem is heat related, need better cooling on my ram, though it dont seem really hot, only warm.

[Big Lar]

Actually Memtest still passes if I retest others do not, very strange. Like I stated, seems it would be a NB/Mosfet overheating, but the temps don't show it. Most deffinately not the cpu as even running Linpack my temps never exceed 41c.

Anyhow, back on topic, I have some HZ that I have been testing here and have them stable at 583mhz with 2.1v bios set, ( memtest 3.8 and 1 hour OCCT Mix). Bout as high as I can get my cpu stable. Nice ram, got some Cellshock PC8000 on the way to test also.

Larry

[CryptiK]

Seems its the P45 Chipset that drives us insane. My board does the same thing, I'll run OCCT/Prime/memtest 3.8 and have a completely stable OC, however if I go back and rerun the tests they will fail immediately or close to that.

Almost seems like it is Heat related, but that is not the case here. I take temps with my Laser while testing and after to see how hot the NB/Mosfets/SB etc are. 32C is the max I get on the NB for instance,(very good cooling), with about 28C idle.

Funny thing is that if I wait an hour or so, reboot and try the exact same tests again, they pass? Not looking for help just a statement. Just a quirk in the chipset I believe. Again, seems heat related but does not show as such.

Larry

Heh, think I sorted it out, it's my cpu, further degrading. Damn 45nm's.

I jacked up the Vtt to 1.25v (was at 1.20v) and bumped up the vcore one notch and now it's perfect. I just backed the vcore down one notch to where it was leaving the Vtt at 1.25v and I'm retesting. It's weird as my cpu hates any Vtt setting between 1.20v and 1.24v, but at 1.25 it seems to be fine.

I don't think it's the P45 chipset, although I had very odd behaviour from my P5Q-D, which is one of the reasons why I RMA'd it. I just wish my board could do higher than 666 MHz on the ram, it's pretty weak in that department.

[WaterFlex]

Guys. I`m sure that all owners of MIIF with watercooling, MUST BLOW the CPU socket area with fan even if your NB, SB, POWER, MB temps are ok. It works for me.

[Big Lar]

Guys. I`m sure that all owners of MIIF with watercooling, MUST BLOW the CPU socket area with fan even if your NB, SB, POWER, MB temps are ok. It works for me.

I don't have the MIIF but the P5Q-D. However, I made a fan holder if you will quite a while ago out of Aluminum and attached it to the Bottom of the top of my case,( Built my case out of Oak about 5 years ago ) Anyhow, I have an 80mm fan on it pointed at my NB which keeps it cool. I also have that ugly Asus fan on the Rear Mosfet sink, as well as a 92mm and an 80mm attached to the mobo tray, 1 pushing air across my SCSI Raid card, the other across my ram. I have for input on the Mobo side of the case 2 x 120mm medium speed fans in the lower/middle front. I have 2 x 120mm fans on the upper rear of the case exhausting out.

On the right side where I have my drives/dvd roms etc, I have 1 120mm on the lower front for intake and 1 120mm exhausting directly behing my drives. PSU is above the drives, about 10"s above exhausting out of course. I have great temps on everything, which is why I point a finger at the chipset/shrug.

Larry

[Eeky NoX]

Still just like you Cryptik...waiting for some bios proof ^^ ...are we far from Xmas so

So much ramkits to test, so I can't stand waiting like this....

[CryptiK]

I know Eeky Nox, i can't get any kits over 666 MHz. I'm sure it's the board too. It needs more drive strength to do it, the UD3P has drive strength settings based on target ram speed, M2F has OC Mem charger, enabled. Not good enough for 666+.

[cliffy]

can anyone offer up some advice on what a good safe voltage for 4*1GB Cellshock 1066 C5 DIMMS (d9 GMH) would be and a clue as to how much northbridge voltage i might need to run on me P5Q deluxe, starting off aiming for 1133mhz @ 3.6Ghz

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I know Eeky Nox, i can't get any kits over 666 MHz. I'm sure it's the board too. It needs more drive strength to do it, the UD3P has drive strength settings based on target ram speed, M2F has OC Mem charger, enabled. Not good enough for 666+.

I think the EP45 Extreme has those same drive strength settings too. Considering dumping my MIIF for one of those (I know zsamz, Gigabut).

[Eeky NoX]

I'm not supposed to change mobo before 3month, so it's a bit enoying I feel Took this board to be sure to keep it more than 1 week

I guess this issue to be fixed up really...or it'll make me cry men ^^ (MIIF is nice in game so I would be able to cell it but I don't want so)

Just pray my friends, just pray....

[zsamz_]

I think the EP45 Extreme has those same drive strength settings too. Considering dumping my MIIF for one of those (I know zsamz, Gigabut).

mfII needs some bios updates to make it better i doubt if the gigubut boards any better
hey i'll trade ya x38 to it lol

[pangingIII]

1200 is available but like i said i couldn't get it stable to pass at least super pi, memtest not to mention.

I wonder why you can't get yours to run SuperPi, as of my experience with Gigabyte boards the 5:6 FSB : DRAM setting (or memory 2.4x in Gigabyte P35/P45/X38) and rest of 333 straps are the most stable for 1333MHz CPU's and with all RAM kits I've been using. Would you mind to show me your BIOS settings in Easytune6 and your memory settings in BIOS, maybe I can think of something that you can try?