ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[WaterFlex]

Hmmm. What is your TJmax? Do you watercool NB and SB? Too low temps.

[The Water Dog]

485fsb is my wall for now, still trying...must...get...over...500fsb:P
Have to get my watercooling up again.
CryptiK: I think you are right with the Nb-temps. Totaly crash if its get around 54-55.

[Eeky NoX]

This is what I get today with the 200 strap :



And I'm supposed to be proud so ?

[WaterFlex]

That`s my result. Room temp is 25,5 degrees.




Under Linpack I have 65\65 degrees of both cores.
Idle temps are 44\39.
Do I have the good core temps with my single waterblock loop?

[radaja]

@waterflex,mine is all aircooled, i have a dryer vent hooked up to my airconditioner that blows very cool air directly into the front intake of my computer.heres a quik run with air conditioner off,mind you its still pretty cool in my house.

[CryptiK]

I am finding it almost impossible to get 666 MHz (DDR2-1333) bench stable. My CellShock GKX & TeamGroup GMH sticks all top out at 660MHz, and my Team Group can do 666MHz max screen but very unstable. More vdimm is not helping, neither is the DDR2 CHA/B ref or NB DDR Ref voltages.

Has anyone got over 666MHz on this board?

Asus need to improve the ram overclocking ability. The UD3P leaves the M2F in the dust in this regard.

That`s my result. Room temp is 25,5 degrees.


Under Linpack I have 65\65 degrees of both cores.
Idle temps are 44\39.
Do I have the good core temps with my single waterblock loop?

I get 63*C both cores with Linpack, 1.336vcore at 25*C ambient with a lapped TRUE and Antec 120mm fan on low (~1200 rpm).

Idle is around 36*C.

**EDIT - on the NB temp/instability issue, I was just testing and I was using 1.40v NB and half way through SPI32M it errored with 'not exact in round" so I bumped the vNB to 1.51v and it was idleing at 54*C (lol) so I restarted SPI32M it got about 2 loops in and the system bluescreened and restarted. I think it may have got to ~60*C or so, but I cant be sure I didn't have probe open. It was either the voltage or the temp that made it unstable. I see many people run 1.6 vNB on the UD3P's with no stability issues, so its either a NB VRM issue at higher voltages, or A2 rev. NB issue where it cant handle 1.5V+ and gets unstable above 50*C.

I think I am going to pull the boards sinks off again and try to get better contact on the NB, I really want to be able to run up to 1.6 vNB for benching but there's no way I could do that at the moment due to temps.

[WaterFlex]

CryptiK
sweet temps, mate!

[The Water Dog]

CryptiK: You lucky pig
My board refuses 1200mhz on the memory, 1199 is okey, i think i try another bios.....but all the other bioses is bugged:S
And i thinking about taking out my mobo to glue couple of 40mm fans on the nb and stuff.
I cant use the fans that come with the board since my Noctua with 2 fans take to much place.

[CryptiK]

I had exactly the same issue you're having but with my old P5Q-Deluxe, it would not do DDR2-1200 no matter what. 1199 fine, 1200 no boot. I RMA'd it for that reason, they are advertised to support DDR-1200, and it didn't function correctly and as advertised, so it has been replaced.

If I were you I'd RMA mate.

[The Water Dog]

Okey, thanks for the advice=) I will try some more and see.
This sounds crazy, but it did 1200 in Xp:S But is no-go in Vista, thats why i wil try some more=)

[KURTZ]

My week 22 does 4GHZ @ 1.054v on a Striker Extreme but this Mobo needs more voltage, not found MIN yet as I'm still testing FSB but it will be higher than 1.054v.

interesting, have you the same VID (1.1250)?

[humeyboy]

No my VID is 1.2125v which seems weird as it can do 4GHZ on far less than the VID claims to need for stock with and its BS anyhow cause the CPU is 1.2v stock not 1.2125v.

Its the 1st time ever I have had a CPU inc CO Wolfdales that has a VID higher than the stock Voltages but its claimed lower VID's run hotter.

I remember the VID used to change as you OC on my previous CO Wolfdales, this stays static in Coretemp and in RealTemp there is a VID range and its MIN 1.087v to MAX 1.2125v.

I'm having major issues with this Mobo it seems temperamental or flaky and 1 Core drops out at 4.5GHZ (always same Core) but both are stable at about 1.325v and can run on their own overnight (8hours), if I set Affinity to run 1 Core at a time, no amount of voltage gets both to run any length of time (like 15min is MAX)

I am messing with my old memory and its seems to run better (ran 2 hours before I stopped it) but still can act up, weird its only in Small FFT's and I think the Mobo is to blame going by other weird power related issues.

I will need sit down and type out my issues and try get some help later on tonight.

[radaja]

ive given up on my maximusII.it wont do ddr 1200 . going back to my UD3P

[seban]

This is 2h P95 stable (turned off test after) but you can see temps...

MB is like this even right after turning the PC ... rest readings built up during Priming. Ambient temps are around 20-23C.

Case is P180 clean/no cables airflow 3x120 Noctua (2x exhoust + 1xCPU) and 1x 120 Scythe intake - which does not change temps by even 1C .

HDDs are with PSU so they are not adding any temps into main chamber.

IBT gave me 75 after 5mins so I did shoot it down .

Both True and CPU are lapped with AS5.

Should I reset MB cooling as I can see most pl has temps in mid 40 at max.

Or should I just send this mobo and take new MF2 without MB issue and new revision as well (this one is pretty old - I can tel from bios which came with it originally - and anyway it was for sure used before...).

What do you think PPL?

EDIT - before commenting my lapping quality I will say that core 3 is almost completely stuck and 4 semi stuck

[KURTZ]

No my VID is 1.2125v which seems weird as it can do 4GHZ on far less than the VID claims to need for stock with and its BS anyhow cause the CPU is 1.2v stock not 1.2125v.

Its the 1st time ever I have had a CPU inc CO Wolfdales that has a VID higher than the stock Voltages but its claimed lower VID's run hotter.

I remember the VID used to change as you OC on my previous CO Wolfdales, this stays static in Coretemp and in RealTemp there is a VID range and its MIN 1.087v to MAX 1.2125v.

I'm having major issues with this Mobo it seems temperamental or flaky and 1 Core drops out at 4.5GHZ (always same Core) but both are stable at about 1.325v and can run on their own overnight (8hours), if I set Affinity to run 1 Core at a time, no amount of voltage gets both to run any length of time (like 15min is MAX)

I am messing with my old memory and its seems to run better (ran 2 hours before I stopped it) but still can act up, weird its only in Small FFT's and I think the Mobo is to blame going by other weird power related issues.

I will need sit down and type out my issues and try get some help later on tonight.

yes, with real temp i've 0.9375 to 1..1250 it's a 435 (final numbers) ... anyway my mobo is died when i start my system i've an infinite series of fake boots ... unfortunately some liquid cooler is gone onto the pcb ...

[carepolice]

yes, with real temp i've 0.9375 to 1..1250 it's a 435 (final numbers) ... anyway my mobo is died when i start my system i've an infinite series of fake boots ... unfortunately some liquid cooler is gone onto the pcb ...

Shame

[humeyboy]

Sometimes this Mobo wont boot even at stock esp if i have changed any setting in bios even 1 not to do with speed or voltage.

Fix is to unplug it and press the power button a few times then boot up as normal, but at times it loads up defaults or setting I have never touched or set in Bios like Skew etc.

I then need load my own Profile and boot up.

I think this is another CRAP ROG Mobo and I have had the Crosshair/Striker Extreme/Striker II Formula and now this Buggy POS.

[Grnfinger]

Sometimes this Mobo wont boot even at stock esp if i have changed any setting in bios even 1 not to do with speed or voltage.

Fix is to unplug it and press the power button a few times then boot up as normal, but at times it loads up defaults or setting I have never touched or set in Bios like Skew etc.

I then need load my own Profile and boot up.

I think this is another CRAP ROG Mobo and I have had the Crosshair/Striker Extreme/Striker II Formula and now this Buggy POS.

If your loading a saved profile from pervious bios versions it wil create problems. Always clear cmos and load settings manually.
Personally I use AFUDOS and the /pbnc /n switches...

[humeyboy]

No, I always re do my profiles each new bios.

This Mobo is touchy and I'm no better of than I was on the POS Striker Extreme TBH.

[seban]

Any comments on my previous post ?

[JoeBar]

**EDIT - on the NB temp/instability issue, I was just testing and I was using 1.40v NB and half way through SPI32M it errored with 'not exact in round" so I bumped the vNB to 1.51v and it was idleing at 54*C (lol) so I restarted SPI32M it got about 2 loops in and the system bluescreened and restarted. I think it may have got to ~60*C or so, but I cant be sure I didn't have probe open. It was either the voltage or the temp that made it unstable. I see many people run 1.6 vNB on the UD3P's with no stability issues, so its either a NB VRM issue at higher voltages, or A2 rev. NB issue where it cant handle 1.5V+ and gets unstable above 50*C.

I think I am going to pull the boards sinks off again and try to get better contact on the NB, I really want to be able to run up to 1.6 vNB for benching but there's no way I could do that at the moment due to temps.

This is the most annoying "bug" with this mb.
My oc requires 1.51v vNB which is ok, but anything higher than 1.55v makes system totally unstable.

Temps aren't a problem cause i'm wc'ing the NB.

[WaterFlex]

JoeBar
Does MCW-NBMAX take emitted heat from mosfets and SB efficiently also?

[JoeBar]

JoeBar
Does MCW-NBMAX take emitted heat from mosfets and SB efficiently also?

I haven't tested it on air, to see the diffs from wc'ing, m8. Surely it takes some heat out of mosfets and sb though, cause it seats over the heatpipe.

[WaterFlex]

What is your temps of SB, POWER, NB, MB under linpack? And what is room temp.

Can you post your PC pic, please?

[radaja]

after setting up my UD3P and my new E8400, it was very easy to get 533x8 with cellshocks running 5/6 divider.something which was virtually impossible for (me at least)to do on my new maxII that i got back from RMA.also after i got maxII out of my case i inspected it a little more closely,it is very bowed where the mosfets are and the i/o shield is.it just amazes me how bad these boards are.they look awesome,but performance wise, not that great.also my e8500 needs 1.32v to run 4250 8.5x500 on my UD3P yet on the maxII it needed 1.38-1.39v. same thing with my new E8400.so it seems that the 6phase power of the UD3P is much more better than the 12 phase of the maxII.maybe the A3 revision of the p45 is what makes the UD3P better,i dont know? but i do know that ive have had two MAXII and they are nowhere near as good as the UD3P. for instance how many bio's has the maxII had?how many made a difference?have any fixed the main problems? no.but my main gripe w/maxII is the craftmanship,maybe im unlucky to get two twisted and bowed boards, maybe there are flat ones out there?i dont know,but paying 270$ for a board that doesnt work and having to send it back only to recieve a warped and twisted one back makes me a little upset. and the board i bought(130$)to hold me over till i got my RMA backout performs it in every aspect.it just pisses me off.well enough venting guess ill just bight the bullitt on this one,im out 270$ with a board that gonna sit in a box from now on. edit-the one real great thing about maxII is all the sensors.