Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post

What is your argument. Are you saying dragon accounts for 50% more performance in in-game situations? Or are you insisting P2 is more than 50% more efficient in certain games? In short, what in your opinion is responsible for the huge disparity?
I already said what i think.But i will say it again:we don't know the settings/res. used in those games,nor the GPUs in intel system.It may very well be a comparison between competing products(intel Q9400+GTX260) versus Dragon platform.Makes sense since the former is all made from non-AMD parts(intel direct CPU competitor,NV direct GPU competitor) ,while the later is all-AMD based system.For what we know it may even be intel/260GTXSLI versus AMD/4870CF.The settings could very well be high res. gaming with AA+AF where HD4800 excels..The Dragon is the enthusiast platform in the end.
Simply it's a lot of guesswork since we don't know the testbeds.But i can tell you AMD wouldn't compare their enthusiast Dragon system with intel IGP(value) based system.They don't belong to neither the same price range nor the performance range.It doesn't make any sense.

I hope this makes my stand clearer since there is a lot of confusion going around.BTW as a side note,what i've heard (unofficially of course) is that Deneb(aka Phenom II) will be a gamer dream system(from both perf. and perf./$),or to put it in blunt terms it will rock in games providing great/better fps than Core2Q at the same settings software and GPU wise(and we know Core i7 has little if no improvement over Yorkfield in gaming).Of course people would like to play their games at best res. and highest detail levels and still have great min fps and average fps. and with the cost of Deneb based system,you'll likely to get the best bang for your buck with it