PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[informal]

They do not take clockspeeds into account for that comparison. They just state that it does outstandingly (hervorragend) well compared to the i7 965. In addition to that they say that they had the chance to approve what the engineers claimed.

Thanks for the translation malice85

[Ghostbuster]

They do not take clockspeeds into account for that comparison. They just state that it does outstandingly (hervorragend) well compared to the i7 965. In addition to that they say that they had the chance to approve what the engineers claimed.

Can you translate the rest? Thanks..

[informal]

AMD Plots Earlier Phenom II Support for DDR3 Memory

[malice85]

Can you translate the rest? Thanks..

The rest of that particular part?

A stable clockspeed of just under 4GHz was easily achieved on all testsystems using stock cooling. All benchmarks (7-Zip, wprime, Crysis or Farcry 2) ran without problems. Only Cinebench R10 crashed reproducibly on all machines from a certain clockspeed (meaning somekind of wall) while all the other test still ran without any problem. At this point we can't tell the exact cause.

(Please excuse grammar / spelling etc. flaws)

If there's anything else you'd want me to translate just let me know

[Waterman]

Wow, that is fast.

[Zucker2k]

The rest of that particular part?



(Please excuse grammar / spelling etc. flaws)

If there's anything else you'd want me to translate just let me know

Are you kidding me; your English is amazing for a non-native speaker? Anyway, not too good if they can reproduce crashing past a certain frequency; instability or worse bug? NDA is beginning to make sense to me now.

[boblemagnifique]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lJdgLM3WR3...0/PICT0470.JPG
Well for keeping their data coherent, the screen of the "system" for that pic, and the desktop seem to match up. Although it looks like they are french (canadian?) given the "Mes Documents" on the desktop. But i do see orthos, and a cpuz file as well. Anyone confirm that card is ATI? Just the 29.5 multi on that score is quite incredible..no htt bump... hard to buy into.. but to their credit, this pic does support the claim moreso, than discredit.

It's my screen :

http://www.ixtremtek.com/ixtek/Overc...0/PICT0470.JPG

I Hate the FAKE and and even more when using my screen !!

[malice85]

Are you kidding me; your English is amazing for a non-native speaker? Anyway, not too good if they can reproduce crashing past a certain frequency; instability or worse bug? NDA is beginning to make sense to me now.

Thanks, I just can't tell if it's wrong or right what i am writing, anyways it doesn't really matter

The question is what is that certain frequency and what does Cinebench that the others don't?

[Ghostbuster]

Anyway, not too good if they can reproduce crashing past a certain frequency; instability or worse bug? NDA is beginning to make sense to me now.

Re-quote...

It could be a CPU eratta of some sort (that happens at a certain frequency), seems that some code sequence in CB10 could have activated it..

Either that or they had some parts of the processor running above threshold, perhaps the NB, TLB, cache or FPU that CB10 triggered.

Perhaps 3GHz was the top frequency before this starts. Other than that mostly speculations... Have to wait till the final chip comes out, hopefully it will be sorted out by then..

@boblemagnifique, I've spotted it early few pages back.

[boblemagnifique]

Re-quote...Either that or they had some parts of the processor running above threshold, perhaps the NB, TLB, cache or FPU that CB10 triggered.

Perhaps 3GHz was the top frequency before this starts. Other than that mostly speculations... Have to wait till the final chip comes out, hopefully it will be sorted out by then..

@boblemagnifique, I've spotted it early few pages back.

Yes it's true (i don't see) , thank you for the help

I will go contact AMD to be closed this blog is unacceptable to allow this information on the web !!

I am very unhappy, I hate it

[informal]

Yes it's true (i don't see) , thank you for the help

I will go contact AMD to be closed this blog is unacceptable to allow this information on the web !!

I am very unhappy, I hate it

AMD has nothing to do with that blog...

[Ghostbuster]

I will go contact AMD to be closed this blog is unacceptable to allow this information on the web !!

Maybe you want to try contacting the folks at Hardspell? Alas maybe its a bit late, they embarassed themselves already http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=4500

[Hornet331]

AMD has nothing to do with that blog...

thats exactly why he contacting amd, to tell them that they(blog) spread fud about there(amds) unreleased product.

Not everything is an attack against amd.

[Ghostbuster]

Thanks, I just can't tell if it's wrong or right what i am writing, anyways it doesn't really matter

Thanks for the effort.

The question is what is that certain frequency and what does Cinebench that the others don't?

Perhaps 3GHz was the top frequency before this starts.

Some corrections.. Top frequency before this (crash) starts could be around 3.2GHz, just looking at the OCP forum results which the benchmarks (including Cinebench) were run at around 3.2GHz.. even though its possible to run at higher clock speeds (they could get 4GHz overclock out of their sample, so the headroom was there). Still speculations..

[Chad Boga]

3610Mhz is also over 3,6ghz.

as long as he dont specifies what "over 3,6Ghz" means, it could be just a few or serveral hundred Mhz more .

Turns out you were on the money.

[informal]

Turns out you were on the money.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...11#post3451811

We are not allowed to give specifics on speeds at this time, but as a generalization one can expect the following stable performance without too much tweaking effort:

* Air: Around 4GHz is a safe area to target with decent aftermarket cooling & mild voltage increase. When I say "around" that means above and below, so don't gripe at me if your CPU won't hit 4GHz, there is no guarantee with overclocking. Also there aren't exactly huge amounts of CPUs out in the wild yet, so observations are somewhat limited.
* LN2: If you were thinking 5GHz, guess again (and guess higher)... It was like the Energizer Bunny commercials... they just keep going, and going, and going. To say in excess of 5GHz is an understatement, but that's about as detailed as I'm allowed. There was another large leap too between what was "stable" and what you could get a CPU-Z screenshot of, so that shows even more promise in the long term as yields will undoubtedly improve.
* Water & Phase Change: Obviously somewhere between Air & LN2. This is really going to vary based on what you are using and your temps

While I can't give exact numbers in terms of GHz, I can give you some of the voltages and temps seen while running the Crysis demo. Keep in mind these temps are not anywhere near 100% CPU usage, but they aren't exactly idle either.

* Air: Cooler Master Hyper Z600 - Around 1.5-1.55V / 33C
* Water/Tec: CoolIT Freezone Elite - Around 1.6V / 38C
* Phase Change: VapoChill - 1.7V / Below 0C (software / MB wouldn't report negative numbers)
* LN2: 1.75V (at least during the Crysis demo... *grin*)

[Zucker2k]

* Air: Cooler Master Hyper Z600 - Around 1.5-1.55V / 33C

Is that a guestimation, and what is ambient temp.?

[Jazzman]

Well said informal!!

[tictac]

linus ncix posted this preview. check it out

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

[Helmore]

linus ncix posted this preview. check it out

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

Little odd that CPU-Z reports it as being an Agena chip, but not so strange given the fact that he was using CPU-Z version 1.41. So seems to be legit to me and looking good as well.

[informal]

Is that a guestimation, and what is ambient temp.?

That's a range of Vcore needed for that clock.The temp. is not ambient,it's core temp on air at those volts and clocks while running Crysis.Ambient temp should be around 23C,they were at AMD's HQ which is air conditioned i presume.

[dinos22]

3610Mhz is also over 3,6ghz.

as long as he dont specifies what "over 3,6Ghz" means, it could be just a few or serveral hundred Mhz more .

hahah you were right
it was a whopping 12MHz over 3.6GHz

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

[informal]

Dinos that's a quick and dirty test by Linus,it's not the maximum he could get...For 30mins of OCing,it's great result on air.
Why you guys try to put a negative spin on this Deneb OCing potential?Are you scared of something or what?
Read my previous post what an article said about clock expectations.

[Jazzman]

hahah you were right
it was a whopping 12MHz over 3.6GHz

Yeah, 3.6Ghz on AIR. Probably at 33C - 40C. Looks like a real dog huh?

[Shintai]

Only very good news. Bad, good or medicore news is not allowed

Even 3.6Ghz is nice enough tho for a quick OC...

And informal...why the paranoia? Now attacking people if they dont give what _you_ want?

This is an actual user for once...in a free uncontrolled environment.