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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    It clearly was a breach of NDA,you don't need to be a genius to figure that one out.It was the only shot of that clock on that particular CPU,nothing else was shared.Now you can say,wow,why didn't he run some tests while he was at it and we will be going in circles.From no CPUz shots of 6+Ghz under LN2 to a CPUZ shot of 4Ghz under air to why no benches of 4Ghz OC to ...

    Some facts about AMD PII event:
    You have to accept the fact that a dozen of people were at at Phenom II Show.All of those people(from pcper,amdzone,techreport,anandtech(?) etc.) confirmed the chips ran at the presented clocks and confirmed the cooling used(air,water,dice,LN2) and played around with the chips.All of those people are bound by NDA and AMD would know if any of them(20 or so)breached it.THe 6+Ghz statement was pulled later in the day and reverted to 5+Ghz as AMD didn't want to disclose too much details(competitive reasons,not buidling way too much unneeded hype etc.).All the chips/systems ,apart the 6.3Ghz one,ran Crysis and FC2(fuad reported the FC2 runs) and run them in loops without stability problems.AMD confirmed the chips were not specially cherry picked but also that they weren't duds either.They expect retail parts to clock to similar frequencies(your mileage will vary).No perf. numbers from the systems were disclosed although the people at the event saw them obviously.People at the event could play with the chips and clock them .Chips have no cold bug and AMD claims retail parts won't have it either,due to manufacturing and uarchitectural changes.
    While all the reasons you give make logical sense, I don't understand the purpose of the demo I mean, NDA applies to chosen beta testers and OEMs I presume, but these are people whose jobs are to report the news, right? Why bring in media people and tell them to shut up. I mean this has to be a first; the media under NDA??

    Edit: Media outlets that do the bidding of companies should not be trusted. All they have to worry about is report the news, period.
    Last edited by Zucker2k; 11-24-2008 at 11:20 AM.

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