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[SoulsCollective]

Google is your friend.

[Defratos]

wow making friends by the minute, cheers for that SoulsCollective

[deachus]

As you can see in the picture if you followed Soulscollective link you will see that your processor is not making full even contact with the CPU IHS because it is not perfectly flat from the factory. The point of Lapping is to get a perfect, flat surface for your HSF to mount on. I always lap my heatsink as well to ensure both are perfectly flat for best contact.

This time around was probably the worst I've ever seen a CPU and heatsink. Both were extremely concave. I am maxing out at 63C now running LinX were before lapping I was maxing out at 71C. Not a bad drop in temps.

[Defratos]

yeah I followed his link, made much more sense then. I think I'll have a go at it too, but when "lapping" the heatsink is it the same process as for the CPU? and can you see how concave it is as clearly as the CPU pics in the link?

One other thing, I'm surprised you guys are getting such high temps on your CPUs, I'm maxing out at 60c, I hardly see 61c and the outside temp here is 30c constant, but I do have the AC on which brings room temps down to 23c-26c, or are you getting such high temps because you're running your CPU at 3.7Ghz or probably more now since it looks like you're testing (again)..

[deachus]

yeah I followed his link, made much more sense then. I think I'll have a go at it too, but when "lapping" the heatsink is it the same process as for the CPU? and can you see how concave it is as clearly as the CPU pics in the link?

One other thing, I'm surprised you guys are getting such high temps on your CPUs, I'm maxing out at 60c, I hardly see 61c and the outside temp here is 30c constant, but I do have the AC on which brings room temps down to 23c-26c, or are you getting such high temps because you're running your CPU at 3.7Ghz or probably more now since it looks like you're testing (again)..

Yes, we are getting higher temps because we are running higher overclocks with more Vcore then you are at 3.2Ghz. Also, my ambient temps are much higher than yours and my PC is next to a heat vent in my house. Obviously the shots at 510FSB are a complete different story because they were run in my A/C chiller at very low temps.

Yes, to lap your heatsink you do the same thing as you did with the CPU. Its much easier than you think and these new CPU's don't have pins like s478 so the process is much easier. I used 400, 600, 800 & 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper that I had sitting around from a few case painting projects. Start out with the 400grit with a few drops of water on it. Put your CPU on the sandpaper with IHS side down, put firm pressure on CPU and move in a circle motion or up and down motion spinning the CPU every 30 seconds. I do this on the 400 until I can see all copper then work my way up to 1000grit and stop when I have a mirror finish.

Then take alcohol and q-tips and clean the cpu off. Polish the top with a cotton rag and put back in the motherboard. Repeat the same steps for the heatsink. You will know right away how concave your cpu or heatsink is by starting the sanding process. If you only see the center or 2 sides of the CPU wearing away then you know the IHS is concave because only small areas are making contact with the sandpaper. My True120 Extreme Black was extremely concave. Took alot of sanding on the 400 grit to get a flat surface to work with.

[Defratos]

nice sounds like fun, thanks for the info buddy

[Defratos]

I've given up on trying to get 4gb @ 1600Mhz with 3.2Ghz, So I lowered the ram to the second highest speed (think it was 1280Mhz) anyway with that speed the computer is 24/7 stable (will post pics when I get home).

Now I've gotten the system "pretty" stable at 3.4Ghz with (I think 1360Mhz), it passes dos memtest, OCCT, Intel Burn, LinX, the only problem I've got now is anything over 3hrs on either Prime95 or windows Memtest and I get the damn blue screen and system restarts. I dunno why but I have a feeling it could be a hardware problem I'm not sure.

When I'm not stressing the system then I can use it anything from 3-6hrs with no problem, but it has crashed (blue screen) once while using the computer normally so I'm a bit confused as to what it could be. I haven't played around with Voltages much since 3.2Ghz so I might need to play with these a bit more. What voltages would you say will require tweaking when going from 3.2 to 3.4Ghz all I can think of is the CPU voltage (which I'm pretty sure is good, currently at 1.29375) does 3.4ghz generally require less Voltage than 3.2Ghz?

[deachus]

I was able to get some subzero runs in at -6.9c ambient.

CPU 1.44v Bios 16C idle / 38C load
eVGA 9800GTX Superclock
vGPU volt mod 1.30v idle / 1.33v load
Max Core 905Mhz / Mem 1230Mhz
11C idle / 39C load
stock HSF

Vantage is running great but 3DMARK 06, 05, PCMARK05 are all giving low results. I am going to switch back to older drivers and test again.

I haven't given up on this system yet but I have hit a FSB 512Mhz wall. I will wait till Core i7 matures and then jump on in 2009.

[newal101587]

ok, so I'm going crazy--I signed up to post this....I've had the computer for 6 months or so--I had it somewhat stable on bios 4(something?)--but I started getting periodic bsods again, so I updated....and then it's been downhill ever since

please, please help me...nothing I have done has helped, and I produce music (not for a living, but for school, and I'm a signed artist)--and my computer not working properly is crippling.... (by the way if you have an idea of an alternative setup that would be better for music production (hopefully at least still using the mobo), let me know--I do everything on the computer--i have no hardware synths or anything)

my config:
mobo: asus p5e3 premium
cpu: 9450
ram: 4x1 (though I've dropped 2 of them because of instability--so now 2x1)--ocz3p1600eb2gk....I know I should upgrade to a 2x2 kit...which I'm going to do....I'm thinking ddr2 1066 because of the problems with ddr3...even underclocked---what do yall think?
video card: radeon 3850 512 mb (was going to crossfire...but too tough to get stable)
os: xp
hd: seagate 1tb 7200 rpm

current settings...i'll let you know what i've tried after (i've read all of this topic twice...and basically every thread on every forum that i could find....)
--after all of that, this is the most stable I could find...it works for general computing, and to a large extent for audio editing / producing...but

it bsods: a. whenever I run utorrent, b. whenever I run chkdsk (always at 76%--hd error?) (also i've been getting these errors: An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation.--in event viewer...but not whenver i get bsods..i'm not sure when exactly they happen)
c. after leaving the computer on for awhile d. when have a lot of tabs open e. arbitrarily

bios 605

cpu ratio: 8
fsb strap: 333
fsb freq: 333
pcie: 100
dram: ddr 1066
dram cmd: 2n

timings-- 8-8-8-26

dram skew: clock a1 and a2 and b1 and b2 --delay 250

dram stat read: disabled
dram dynamic write: disabled
ai clock: light
ai trans: man
cpu perf level: 8


voltages:

dram: 1.84


llc: normal
cpu spread spectrum: disabled
pcie spread spectrum: disabled

cpu clock skew: delay 400
nb clock skew: delay 200

things that I have tried in the past few weeks (for an ungodly amount of time--but i have a lot less time now because of exams)

cpu voltage: 1.28-1.33
cpu pll: 1.5-1.6
fsb term: 1.3-1.4 ish
dram volt: 1.7-1.9
nbv: 1.3-1.53
nb gtl: .61, .67
clock--lighter to stronger

dram cmd rate: 1n, auto

tried each stick by itself, and i get exactly the same kinds of problems


one more point of information: when i first had my cpu, i had a new fan that i used twisty ties to keep in (i bought it in another city, and it came without a part of the bracket)...when i moved to my new apartment it broke and the fan stopped working--stupidly, i ran it overnight, checked the next morning and each core was running around 90 deg c.....anyway...i got a new fan and now it runs at 45 or so idle and with intelliburn, it gets up to 65 or so (not too bad)...but so i don't know if i've fried it or something--although i suspect not, as it was quite stable until a few weeks ago


please, please, please help me

[Brave758]

ddr2 won't work in this board, if you need your computer for your work why overclock it. run it as standard do you still get the faults. Also when it blue screens have you managed to get the code.
Have you tried putting the memory through its paces with memtest. also are you using the latest chipset drivers.

It could be any number of items causing the problem hardware or software so it may take a bit to find.

Oh ya you said you've just moved have you checked to make sure all the cables are seated correctly.

[newal101587]

memtest went all night two nights ago--29 passes: no errors

the blue screens usually are just a general error code--sometimes there are different screens (which are just different general codes).

but now there's another, bigger problem:

so...now my os won't boot...it just stays at the windows loading screen indefinitely...................regardless of the bios settings, it still happens (i'm writing this message from safe mode (which thankfully still works))

anyway, i think i'm using the latest chipset drivers...not sure but i did just install #4 on this page (which i think is the latest mobo chipset driver)

i looked around at the cables--and pressed most of them in--they seem to all be fine....

[newal101587]

chkdsk through the recovery console still freezes

worse..when i try to repair/upgrade i get this "file copy error" : "an error occurred copyingfile ax57od42.sys..."

the file doesn't turn up with a google search.....the consensus among ppl i know is that it's either a mobo issue or an hd issue--and my gut--given the incessant bsods (and not disk / data problems except etc--tells me that it's the mobo......

anything i can do?

[Brave758]

could be a HD issue this board has two sata controllers on you can try to swap between the two or even try any of the ports and see how it goes. Could be spyware, virus issue have you given it a good scan with a few different scanners. And last but not least go for a windows clean install, i'd put the BSOD's as more of a driver issue, with most mobo problems ive come across its either it works or doesn't the fact it's booting is a good sign, and it passes memtest also is a good sign for a hardware. If i was you i'd get a new hard drive as there not too expensive do a fresh install on that, to save important info and you can recover that later.

Dam my mate just found out most his bsod issues were caused because his sata cable was routed too close the the mobo power cable.

Good luck and keep us updated

[Razmatazz]

Set your DRAM command rate to 2N. I've not had to adjust CPU clock skew or NB clock skew. I did find that a delay of 300 for DRAM clock skew for both channels did help me with stability. Power supply?

[Pisklink]

@ Newal

I had the exact same modules (ocz3p1600eb2gk) as you use at this moment. They caused me a lot of problems getting them stable at 1600Mhz when I was on bios 0505. I could still exchange them and got me some Corsair memory. I installed it (still bios 0505) and worked flawlessly. I would recommend to stay away from OCZ with this board although Reapers seem to work fine. The only people I saw that could get OCZ memory to work on this board is with Reaper modules.

Moreover I would first put everything back to auto settings en perform a clean install of Windows (maybe on a new disk as well). This way you make certain no manual bios settings will cause the problems. You can start OC'ing at a later moment.

[nexxusty]

OH MY F****** GOD! it turns out my pc is perfectly fine and always has been, I turnt my pc speakers of to use headphones and there was still popping and cracking, it turns out it was coming from my samsung 40 lcd which I use as monitor, mute the TV's internal speaker and EVERYTHING is fine, im so pissed off but at the same time releaved :E

I am glad your system is working, but do u have any idea how much money and time you have wasted regarding the companies you RMA'd with? Just because you n00bed out dude, you need to stop blaming hardware errors on anyone but yourself. I make damn sure my parts are malfunctioning before they are sent back. 90% of the time it's just me forgetting a setting or doing something slightly wrong. Either way point is, SOO many RMA's don't need to be set up. Situations like yours will make it so the wise and knowledgeable will have an increasingly hard time dealing with these companies because of people like you. Not trying to be a man, but next time just make damn sure YOUR not the problem.

[Donster]

I am glad your system is working, but do u have any idea how much money and time you have wasted regarding the companies you RMA'd with? Just because you n00bed out dude, you need to stop blaming hardware errors on anyone but yourself. I make damn sure my parts are malfunctioning before they are sent back. 90% of the time it's just me forgetting a setting or doing something slightly wrong. Either way point is, SOO many RMA's don't need to be set up. Situations like yours will make it so the wise and knowledgeable will have an increasingly hard time dealing with these companies because of people like you. Not trying to be a man, but next time just make damn sure YOUR not the problem.

Dude there WERE faulty bits of hardware in my system ... psu/gfx! Im 100% sure lots of techys on this forum would have been baffled by my issue, how the hell was I to know it was my TV? It did the same on the headphones when next to the set, you crack me up with your "noobie" comments, if you’ve nowt to say decent don’t comment.

[Pisklink]

Does anyone here uses OCZ3RPR18004GK memory in combination with the 0605 bios?

I want to upgrade to 4Gb and Corsair memory is still very expensive at 1800Mhz. I found a webshop in my country that sells OCZ Reapers for 225,- euros. However my previous experience with OCZ 1600EB edition isn't really perfect to say the least. Wasn't possible to get the memory stable at advertised settings although this was on the 0405 or 0505 bios.

[Whoop]

Im just starting out with overclocking my system and have run into problems (like most folks here have) with what settings with equipment. I spent the last 2 days going through boards to try to see what settings to try and experiment with. First off, this is the gear:

Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP w/ 0605 bios
Intel Q9450
CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400)

areca ARC-1231ML-1G PCI Express SATA II Controller Card w 2x MTRON 7500 (Raid 0)
GeForce GTX 280 HC16 Clear
ZALMAN ZM - Reserator1 V2 Water Cooling System

I started out with this
CPU Ratio 7.5
FSB Strap Auto
FSB Freq 450
DRAM Freq 1800
Dram Cmd Rate 2N
Timing 7-7-7-20-2T
Static Read Disabled
Static Write Disabled
CPU Voltage 1.325
CPU GTL (0/2) Auto
CPU GTL (1/3) Auto
CPU PLL Auto
FSB Term Volt Auto
DRAM Volt 2.0
NB Volt Auto
NB GTL Volt Auto
SB Volt Auto
Clock Over Volt Auto
Load Line Normal
CPU Spread Spec Disabled
PCIE Spread Spec Disabled
CPU Clock Skew Auto
NB Clock Skew Auto

The system booted up and CPU-z showed a Clock 3375 Mhz

I then tried

CPU Ratio 8
FSB Strap 400
FSB Freq 450
DRAM Freq 1800
Dram Cmd Rate 2N
Timing 7-7-7-20-2T
Static Read Disabled
Static Write Disabled
CPU Voltage Auto
CPU GTL (0/2) Auto
CPU GTL (1/3) Auto
CPU PLL Auto
FSB Term Volt Auto
DRAM Volt 2.0
NB Volt Auto
NB GTL Volt Auto
SB Volt Auto
Clock Over Volt Auto
Load Line Normal
CPU Spread Spec Disabled
PCIE Spread Spec Disabled
CPU Clock Skew Auto
NB Clock Skew Auto

The problem is that when I boot up and start up CPU-z it shows a core speed of

2700.3Mhz, 6x multiplier, Bus speed 450.0Mhz.


As soon as I actually run a program (super PI), it changes to

3600.2Mhz, 8x multiplier, Bus speed 450.0Mhz



Any reason why the multiplier would go up/down dynamically based on load? I have speed stepping turned off in the bios.... So Im thinking I need more voltage on the NB, any ideas?

Also thanks for the posts/info from deachus and SoulsCollective. You guys have solid info on this thread.

[neo mike]

So whats the verdict on this board guys ? im looking for a new board, this board seems sweet?

[Whoop]

I think the board is great. You can adjust the settings any way you want. You can also not only save the BIOS settings in 2 'profiles' but you can also upload profiles that other people have made for you to use.

If anything the minus to this board is that you can adjust SO many things that some folks seem to get a bit lost/overwhelmed with all the things you can do.

[neo mike]

Having to many settings if fine with me, was looking at the striker 2 extreme, that board has so many issues it aint funny, thanks for the heads up.

[Infa]

It's a nice board if you got the patience and Bios habit, or else it will destroy you

Haven't noticed any problem with it so far atleast, no incompability or so, no BSOD becouse of the board itself, all Bsods are based on my OC or faulty settings, but at this price it is now it is not defenable against i7 anymore, thats the glitch.

peace.

[kill_a_wat]

Its nice to see a thread about this board! All in all it's a good board although I would like more manual overclocking bios options eg. 4 CPU GTLs etc but I guess that's why they have a Rampage Extreme

[DeViTTo]

A very good board is my verdit. Apart from some BSOD issues which have now seemed to be very few and I have been running 24/7 3.75GHZ on Q6600 and Cellshock 1864mhz memory . I can OCCT, Prime for ages but then random BSOD screens have appeared, but it seems to have settled as (touch wood) don't remember last time I saw one lol.

Very easy to overclock apart from the BSOD issue. I would defer now to i7 in fact this weekend I have just done that i920, PT6, and 6GB Corsair 1600. At one time I did regret the upgrade though from Maximus Formula DDR2, but that was because of the random reboots.