Nehalem Overclocking @ XS

[massman]

So how is what Charles is about to do any worse?

Just because Intel is making all the details clear?

As far as I know, Macci IS NOT the person who made this thread, he isn't involved in all this except for the actual overclocking at the press event. Now, these two last words should mean something; it's quite understandible if he has in fact used a handpicked cpu, because ... it's to show what the Deneb can do. Reverse the question: Why wouldn't they choose a good overclocking chip?

Then there's the thermal diode story, which has only be confirmed by DrWho at the moment. If indeed the thermal diode was disabled in the chip used at that event, end-user WILL know eventually. There's no way that AMD would get away with such a big lie and if people find that they can get nowhere near 5Ghz, that'll be bad news for AMD, very bad news.

Now, suddenly an Intel representative needs to show that he can cut certain elements out of a retail chip and make it the best overclocking i7 we have seen so far (if I recall correctly, he did aim for 6, maybe 7GHz), by miles. Apparently, the technique for disabling the thermal diode is this dangerous that he doesn't want to share with the most extreme hardware enthousiasts who are willing to go through dozens of chips to find thé one. It's either indeed to difficult for people to cut the diode and thus means the 6GHz nothing, because it's simply impossible for other people to match that. Or it is not so difficult ... but then I can't see why it's not shared.

Concerning Charles, we all know he has good relations with Intel, no need to bull about that. We also know that he tried many Phenom chips at CES and said none of them were able to boot at subzero temperatures, making it look like ty cpu's, whereas many others including myself have already been able to go subzero with the cpus.

If you claim Macci is not impartial, then you have to do the same for any other person who works close with manufacturers. When the results appear, I will draw my own conclusions and I truely hope all others will do the same. In addition, I will test out the new Phenoms as soon as possible to check whether they are indeed overclocking that well. Afterwards, I will be able to compare both PII and I7 platform in terms of overclocking and performance and will then decide which one is the best in what situation.