PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[Sly Fox]

Trust me, nobody's "crying" over i7. No need to be sorry, i7 is already quite attractive as it is. Let's see what has it been now a week and half since reelase? We've already seen 5.3Ghz OC's, 4.3GHz OC's on air? Yep, and it will only get better as people tweak and learn more.

The same thing will go for AMD's offering when they release it. It will get better as time goes on, but as far as numbers...

I'm just tired of the Intel-fan damage control. And you must talk to different people than I, because it seems a fair bit of people are upset that i7 isn't what they expected.

Now i7 IS exactly what I expected, an improvement upon Yorkfield. My point is, that it's not anything revolutionary, just evolutionary. Yet people want to make out as if AMD has no chance at competing.

If people are truly confident in their chosen company this round, I guess they shouldn't need the damage control at all... Odd that it's around.

The fact remains ,that Phenom II isn't out yet, so all we're going to have is rumors, speculation, and the occasional solid fact. So as a forum, we can either just not talk about PhII at all until it comes out... Or talk about it and debate.

I like the debate idea myself, and I'm sure you do as well sir.