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    Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
    so hes gone right?

    i am so sry guys but this guy does not impress me one bit, Intel engineer or not, he sounds just like all of the intel fanboys.

    i had a look at his 'past' work, from various sites from the Aussie OC sites to various others, and all i see, is an intel lover.

    so why 'grace' us with his presence here?

    been with intel for 11 years or so, at the supposed cutting edge of intel design, and is only a member here since the end of 2007?

    has had his hands on core i7 for ages now and hasnt put it under LN2?

    this is small site in the big scheme of things, but it is very popular, especially for extreme clockers, and engineers and engineering teams?

    im sry mr DrWho, i have read your 'posts' and you really dont have anything to say ehh? other than devils advocate opinions of AMD kit, like 'we will see'

    chuckle, chuckle and so on

    do me a big favour and go hang out in the intel section, maybe you impress them, not me.

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    Well said Soundood.
    Informal, good on you mate for taking up the fight.
    I can't believe he had the b*lls to come in here.

    I don't know if many here saw the argument between a guy named Agner and Who. (He recently changed his name to Dr Who...Ego or what )
    I can't even remember which site it was but this Agner guy really knows his stuff and he posted and exposed all the tricks that intel were pulling with compilers, it was amazing to see how intel could cripple AMD cpu's this way.
    Anyway Who came along and tried to argue that it was ok to do it and Agner tore him to shreds, it's the funniest thing I have ever seen on the net. I just wish I could find it now.
    Who is the architect of all these compiler shenanigans, so we have him to blame.
    Bring on the antitrust case...
    I have zero time for the guy and as far as I'm concerned he fits right in with the intel ethos.

    Interesting he came here for a visit.
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    Heya Aussie FX
    Check Aceshardware forum for the discussion you need .I don't have a link but search posts by Agner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie FX View Post
    Anyway Who came along and tried to argue that it was ok to do it and Agner tore him to shreds, it's the funniest thing I have ever seen on the net. I just wish I could find it now.
    Maybe you refer to this thread on aceshardware liferaft?
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    I wont intervene in this DrWho thingy since lots of Intel fanboys seem to be friends with mods, but Ill have to agree with soundood here. Although he now and then throws some rubbish around, he did make very good points
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    Are Denebs capable to do 6GHz + on LN2 or is it foo to harm Intel?
    Strange timing to hear great news about Denebs at this right moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marios View Post
    Are Denebs capable to do 6GHz + on LN2 or is it foo to harm Intel?
    Strange timing to hear great news about Denebs at this right moment.
    Well, I just hope for ~4GHz on AIR, but at least two different people confirmed over 6GHz run on Deneb. One person was conservatively saying 6200MHz the other was claiming 6300MHz.

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    The bad thing is, I'm in UK and this means I might need to wait a bit (read lot) longer to get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie FX View Post
    Well said Soundood.
    Informal, good on you mate for taking up the fight.
    I can't believe he had the b*lls to come in here.

    I don't know if many here saw the argument between a guy named Agner and Who. (He recently changed his name to Dr Who...Ego or what )
    I can't even remember which site it was but this Agner guy really knows his stuff and he posted and exposed all the tricks that intel were pulling with compilers, it was amazing to see how intel could cripple AMD cpu's this way.
    Anyway Who came along and tried to argue that it was ok to do it and Agner tore him to shreds, it's the funniest thing I have ever seen on the net. I just wish I could find it now.
    Who is the architect of all these compiler shenanigans, so we have him to blame.
    Bring on the antitrust case...
    I have zero time for the guy and as far as I'm concerned he fits right in with the intel ethos.

    Interesting he came here for a visit.

    You should be banned. You just come here to post threads so that you can run back to AMDzone and say "look at what I did".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    The good thing is, I'm ready to shell money on new Phenom and if necessary a nice SB750 mobo.
    The bad thing is, I'm in UK and this means I might need to wait a bit (read lot) longer to get one.

    I live in Denmark and are working for a Hardware-shop.
    We have a few suppliers from Germany, namely Wave-computer.de

    If you want to pay for the delivering ill get you a phenom when they are out.

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    I wonder how much the 940 model will cost.If it's the only one unlocked,it will cost considerably more than the a920 one.But if both are unlocked ,now that would be great.
    Unlocked multi is a must for those insanely high scores and that is telling me it will be restricted only for the top clock model at first.Later on,when they get out say 3.2/3.3/etc. versions,the BE will move onto those models while the lower ones(3Ghz for instance) will remain unlocked for some time then slide into a regular line-up(locked).

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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    I wonder how much the 940 model will cost.If it's the only one unlocked,it will cost considerably more than the a920 one.But if both are unlocked ,now that would be great.
    Unlocked multi is a must for those insanely high scores and that is telling me it will be restricted only for the top clock model at first.Later on,when they get out say 3.2/3.3/etc. versions,the BE will move onto those models while the lower ones(3Ghz for instance) will remain unlocked for some time then slide into a regular line-up(locked).
    Even unlocked the 920 will probably still rock for normal overclocking i.e air and water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    Even unlocked the 920 will probably still rock for normal overclocking i.e air and water.
    I would certainly like that since i almost never buy the high end hardware .I usually go with mid-range and clock it up to what i feel is "Safe" for usual work.
    If locked a920 is indeed a good clocker it will be great,i won't mind much.If it is unlocked,it's icing on the cake

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    You should be banned. You just come here to post threads so that you can run back to AMDzone and say "look at what I did".

    http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...?f=52&t=135822

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    Some times I wonder what it would be like if AMD supporters did drive by flamebaiting in the Intel section like some Intel supporters do here. Would they realize what jerks they're being or would it just make things worse?

    It's a f'king processor. Why are we even fighting about it? Do any of you honestly believe we'd be like this if this conversation were happening in person in a room somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    It's a f'king processor. Why are we even fighting about it? Do any of you honestly believe we'd be like this if this conversation were happening in person in a room somewhere?
    +1
    I think lots of guys here are pathetic. I'm sure AussieFX wouldn't call DrWho a low life when they would be in one room. I don't understand why people have to act so stupid about a CPU. We should discuss technical aspects and not flaming about individuals.
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    I wonder how these will do in Folding/WCG? I am not a fan boy of either, I am patiently waiting to see who gets my money on my next build...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    Even unlocked the 920 will probably still rock for normal overclocking i.e air and water.
    only 940 is unlocked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anubis View Post
    I can see myself buying a Phenom II, a J&W 780G ITX MoBo - and a perfect WCG/HTPC is born
    As long as this board will support the AM3 CPU's then it would make an unbeatable HTPC. I want to know which GPU's will run in the PCI-E slot though as it only runs at 4x as opposed to 16x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    only 940 is unlocked!
    And I can see point to this .

    On the other hand even 2.8GHz (14x multi) locked should be able to clock using only HTT to about 250x14=3500MHz.. I would say this is AMAZING

    We already saw most 9950BE are doing 270MHz-280MHz HTT on 790 boards, so my estimate is very conservative.

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    So how sure are we that 1.5V on AMD's 45nm process isn't a big deal? That opens a lot of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    So how sure are we that 1.5V on AMD's 45nm process isn't a big deal? That opens a lot of options.
    If deneb runs 1.35v @ default 1.5v is no big deal, for shure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    So how sure are we that 1.5V on AMD's 45nm process isn't a big deal? That opens a lot of options.
    How about 32C on air @ 3.9Ghz? It's the low current leakage in the new Phenom II transistor design. Compared to i7 heat at 3.8Ghz, you can see the advantages for ocing a Phenom II. Not to imply that Phenom II is better in design to i7, it just seems to run cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    All systems,apart the 6Ghz,were apparently stable and were running Crysis game code with no problems or stability issues.The temperatures of the air cooled chip was really great(low),standing at 32 degrees C.This proves chip is very good at handling high volts and handles heat very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    If deneb runs 1.35v @ default 1.5v is no big deal, for shure.
    Exactly,Phenom IIs use relatively high stock vids while maintaining excellent power draw,ie. a lot less then Agena.I would dare say that even if rated at 125W TDP, the 940@3Ghz will consume around ~100W or even less in full laod on 4 cores under prime.Overvolting it to even 1.6V under a good air cooler or wc will be 18% over stock vcore(power draw will rise 39% over stock without touching frequency,a bit more with frequency change,but this is understandable and just in line with physics laws).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    How about 32C on air @ 3.9Ghz
    Is that load temp?

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    dont know if anybody saw this

    running at 5ghz.... far cry 2 benchmark...

    http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=355472


    no real numbers or anything, just a picture of the dude who helped code AMD overdrive

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