PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[Hornet331]

People shouldn't underestimate mobile market since it's growing insanely fast.That's why AMD preps the Deneb core based low power models for notebooks.Netbooks should get a single core variant of Deneb too,only cache stripped and running at low volts.

Whats the point of that, singelcores are dead, even for notebooks (beside for UMPCs, but even there dualcores take over)?

They need a chip that is dirt cheap and consumes next to nothing, and perform a bit better then atom -> zing amd would own the whole sub 400€ market.

Just look at the success of atom. Even if you strip down phenom 2 off everything it wont come close the the power consumption of atom.

Amd already had massmarket SoC way befor intel (remeber cyrix? ), but they dumped it... if they would have forced the development based on MediaGX core they would have a very competentive product against Atom.

As for a competition against the centrieno platform, that depends how much impact the cache strip has on phenom phenoms performance.

[Stukov]

Whats the point of that, singelcores are dead, even for notebooks (beside for UMPCs, but even there dualcores take over)?

They need a chip that is dirt cheap and consumes next to nothing, and perform a bit better then atom -> zing amd would own the whole sub 400€ market.

Just look at the success of atom. Even if you strip down phenom 2 off everything it wont come close the the power consumption of atom.

Amd already had massmarket SoC way befor intel (remeber cyrix? ), but they dumped it... if they would have forced the development based on MediaGX core they would have a very competentive product against Atom.

As for a competition against the centrieno platform, that depends how much impact the cache strip has on phenom phenoms performance.

And how are the margins in the sub $400 computers components?