ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe discussion

[MarkJohnson]

I usually disabled the 4 settings above Mem OC Charger, and maybe try BIOS 1306, was the most stable IMO.

Yeah, they were disabled originally. It seemed to run better enabled, but it may of been my imagination.

Anyway, I think I've got it figured out. After noticing it was crashing after a little while of stressing no matter the settings I pulled out my DMM with a temp probe and stuck it in the NB and sure enough it was 65C just mem testing. I pulled out my old 40mm fan and it cooled it down to 50C and has been lasting much longer now with no errors.

I had this same problem on my old DFI Dark 965-s board. I have noticed it being a problem more on older boards before the upright heatpipe HSF units came out as they were designed to have the hsf blowing across the MB and helping cool the NB and others. Once I bought a hsf assembly for the NB I never had issues with the 965-s board again.

Now I guess I'll have to buy a NB HSF assembly and some MOSFET hsf assemblies as well. Any Suggestions?

-=Mark==-
ps. why in the world did Intel screw up the monitoring on these boards? They left so many out it's so hard to diagnose problems, as it is, it's hard enough diagnosing with the million-and-one settings in the BIOS these days. and to think of all the people having so called memory compatibility issues, when it is probably just an overheating NB.

[Zigosity]

Yeah, they were disabled originally. It seemed to run better enabled, but it may of been my imagination.

Anyway, I think I've got it figured out. After noticing it was crashing after a little while of stressing no matter the settings I pulled out my DMM with a temp probe and stuck it in the NB and sure enough it was 65C just mem testing. I pulled out my old 40mm fan and it cooled it down to 50C and has been lasting much longer now with no errors.

I had this same problem on my old DFI Dark 965-s board. I have noticed it being a problem more on older boards before the upright heatpipe HSF units came out as they were designed to have the hsf blowing across the MB and helping cool the NB and others. Once I bought a hsf assembly for the NB I never had issues with the 965-s board again.

Now I guess I'll have to buy a NB HSF assembly and some MOSFET hsf assemblies as well. Any Suggestions?

-=Mark==-
ps. why in the world did Intel screw up the monitoring on these boards? They left so many out it's so hard to diagnose problems, as it is, it's hard enough diagnosing with the million-and-one settings in the BIOS these days. and to think of all the people having so called memory compatibility issues, when it is probably just an overheating NB.

Monitoring? As far as I know, the only boards Asus offers NB temp sensors on are the very highest end, like the Maximus II Formula and whatnot. It's not really intel's fault. And I'm pretty sure the NB on my board overheats at >1.48v, because I have major issues above that, even with a 40mm fan on it.

-Zigosity

[MarkJohnson]

Monitoring? As far as I know, the only boards Asus offers NB temp sensors on are the very highest end, like the Maximus II Formula and whatnot. It's not really intel's fault. And I'm pretty sure the NB on my board overheats at >1.48v, because I have major issues above that, even with a 40mm fan on it.

-Zigosity

oh wonderful. I thought it was just the new P45 and its features. and to think the deluxe board doesn't get basic things like proper monitoring. In the many years of buying MB this is the first board I've ever seen that removes features instead of adding them. Even my other mATX board have full monitoring on them. I wish I'd researched this better, but who knew? oh great, it is one day past my return date.

well, on a plus note. I have my multiplier to x7 and memory still passes with a slight bump in vCore. Now I'm on x8 and it starts fine. I'm sure it'll be ok though.

Thanks for the help
-=Mark=-

[kaskuli]

I had these setting going pretty good at 400fsb, I just raised this to 425 in the pic and it errors out immediately in Mem Test. I was able to raise NB to 1.26 and it would fail Mem Test after 5-10minutes, but when I restarted to go back into the BIOS and make some changes the system would do a cold boot double post thing and wipe out all of my BIOS settings.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.
-=Mark=-

Those voltages look too raise Cpu voltage >1.3~1.4 PLL>1.5~1.56 NB 1.4~ DRAM 1.96 FSB Termination ~1.36 And perhaps try remove the "Pull-In" settings from Ai Transaction Booster, or even try leave that on Auto... Then take each one down a notch after successful completion of SPI 32 XS 1.5.

[MarkJohnson]

Those voltages look too raise Cpu voltage >1.3~1.4 PLL>1.5~1.56 NB 1.4~ DRAM 1.96 FSB Termination ~1.36 And perhaps try remove the "Pull-In" settings from Ai Transaction Booster, or even try leave that on Auto... Then take each one down a notch after successful completion of SPI 32 XS 1.5.

ok, I restarted last night after finding my NB needed a fan and I got 450fsb with an hour prime95 blend and 3 passes of mem test in vista ult x64. Everything's aa little high and I want to lower volts/temps as much as possible.

Here are my settings:

CPU Ratio Setting: 08.0
FSB Frequency: 450
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: 1800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
   1st Information 8-8-8-24-5-88-10-5
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 8
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 8
DRAM RAS Precharge: 8
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
   2nd Information 8-5-9-4-9-4-8 all on Auto
   3rd Information 22-7-1-9-9 all on Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
DRAM Write Training: Auto
MEM OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
   C/P : A1 A2 |  B1 B2
   LVL : 11 11  | 11 11
Common Performance Level: 11
All Pull-ins: Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.37500
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 1.90
NB Voltage: 1.40
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

I still need more testing, but I'd like to get the vcore lower and temps down. Max temp is like 73C with HWMonitor 1.12, NB is around 52C load using DDM and I'm sure it's at least a few degrees higher than that reading.

-=Mark=-

[kaskuli]

You're not paying attention. Of course lowering voltages is the icing on the cake but you have to start from somewhere. I tried giving you some pointers but I guess you've got your own m.o.

[kaskuli]

ok, I restarted last night after finding my NB needed a fan and I got 450fsb with an hour prime95 blend and 3 passes of mem test in vista ult x64. Everything's aa little high and I want to lower volts/temps as much as possible.

Damn, didn't notice you had 2x2gig memory and a quad?! LOL. You're screwed

[modderwannabe]

my latest results

cpu pll 1.56, fsb 1.4, nb 1.4, sb 1.3, dram 1.98, FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400

DRAM Static Read Control, DRAM Dynamic Write Control, DRAM Read Training, DRAM Write Training, all these 4 settings disabled.

pci-e 101, cpu margin performance mode, most of other settings are on auto,

AI Transaction Booster AUTO on CPL 08, AI Clock Twister LIGHT, MEM OC Charger ENABLED

[sxs112]

ASUS P5Q3-Deluxe 1609 Final Bios
[ 1609 ]
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Enhance the compatibility with certain memory.

[kaskuli]

ASUS P5Q3-Deluxe 1609 Final Bios
[ 1609 ]
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Enhance the compatibility with certain memory.

Awwww, 1306 is working just fine Thanks for the heads up.

[modderwannabe]

will give it a shot on the new bios hope it will have lesser problems for every1. has any1 tried the new bios ?

[masterchan777]

I tried the new BIOS , nothing special , the same old problems as earlier , I had to enter most values manually to reach stable , better luck next time ASUS

[kaskuli]

New BIOS sucked for me, don't even bother...

[sxs112]

ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe 1611 Beta Bios
[ 1611 ]
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[Leeghoofd]

Thx SXS112, hope the DDR3 users can get as good results as we get with the DDR2 variant now

[masterchan777]

It looks like 1611 is not BETA , It includes a couple of fixes as ASUS say :

[ 1611 ]
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1. Fix chassis fan mode can't be saved after resume from S3.
2. Fix display priority is not correct when plugs two PCIE VGA cards.

Will give it a try and see , regards ...

[kaskuli]

I appreciate the continuing BIOS support, but no 1T means my P5Q3 has it's days numbered...

[masterchan777]

Bios 1611 has been removed from ASUS servers , does anybody know why ? are they planning to release an updated version ?

[modderwannabe]

probably n hopefully asus makes a good bios ... i'm still stuck at where i'm at, cant go any further with multiple attempts on different settings. still on same bios 1406. hope someday someone out there could help me to reach my target of 5ghz n 2000mhz on my ddr3's. thx in advance

[masterchan777]

Bios 1702 has been released

[ 1702 ]
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Enhance the compatibility with certain memory.

you can download it right from ASUS servers here

will try it and report soon

Edit : Tested and the system FEELS more stable with 1702 than it used to be with 1611, No big difference in terms of the max settings I could get with 1611, however the system feels a bit faster and I could get some more points with EVEREST, not much but better than nothing.
Conclusion : update to 1701 in order to get the most out of your P5Q3 deluxe . good luck .

[Psycrow]

Hi im new here and i looked on some of you post regard the OC and i am surprised. I have a problem with my OC and i need some help.
My hardware are:

Asus p5q3 wifi deluxe
E8500 C2D intel 3-16 ghz
Corsair ddr 1600 mhz 2 x 1 gb kit (placed in orange slots)
radeon 4870 1 GB ram
samsung F1 tb 1 HDD
Coolermaster 700 w
Thermaltake v 1 cooler cpu
case Antech
OS win xp pro

I have tryed some OC specs but all leaving me to freeze or hang right on the windows desktop load or right before the welcome screen, leaving me with a black screen. The strange thing is when i try to reboot few times and fix around in bios then i can run smooth with some OC specs until next day were i cold start the Computer, Then it freeze or hangs again in the same state until i reboot or try other specs..its a nightmare for me Thats why i hope i could get some new bios Specs from you people in here. Just ask me anything regard hardware or bios and i will post it. Atm my bios is set to default leaving me with 3.16 and 1333 mhz ddr3 ram :/ My real temp is 35 degrees idle on cold start and gets 58- 60 on stress test

I have heard it could be a volt related problem but im not 100 % sure how much to add or not.
I know i cant get my cpu to run above 4.0 due to heat but anything around it would be fine and with 1600 mhz mhz ram

[Leeghoofd]

I appreciate the continuing BIOS support, but no 1T means my P5Q3 has it's days numbered...

Think only the X38 and X48 can push that mate.. P45 is a midrange chipset, I have that option in the Gigabyte EP45T UD3P bios but it has no effect at all...

Can anyone check 8 x 500FSB 1600Mhz C9-9-9-24 with a wolfie.. I want to have some comparisons with the Gigabyte mobo...

Here's my 24/7 setting :

[kaskuli]

Think only the X38 and X48 can push that mate.. P45 is a midrange chipset, I have that option in the Gigabyte EP45T UD3P bios but it has no effect at all...

Can anyone check 8 x 500FSB 1600Mhz C9-9-9-24 with a wolfie.. I want to have some comparisons with the Gigabyte mobo...

Duh, I know about 1T, just wishful thinking.
As for midrange, it may be in price, but far surpasses it's bigger brother in some categories.
8 x 500 @ 1600? What do you need? Minimum volts for stable 32M?
BTW, Belgium Good job in Congo & Rwanda lol...

[Leeghoofd]

Duh, I know about 1T, just wishful thinking.
As for midrange, it may be in price, but far surpasses it's bigger brother in some categories.
8 x 500 @ 1600? What do you need? Minimum volts for stable 32M?
BTW, Belgium Good job in Congo & Rwanda lol...

Just an everest bandwith test and a hyperpi 32Mb (2 instances ) run at the same latencies so 1600 C9-9-9-24

BTW, Belgium Good job in Congo & Rwanda lol...

don't care about politics at all... neither silly warfare for oil I'm just happy where I live, what my government messes up is their thing, sadly we just suffer from it all

[kaskuli]

Just an everest bandwith test and a hyperpi 32Mb (2 instances ) run at the same latencies so 1600 C9-9-9-24

don't care about politics at all... neither silly warfare for oil

I don't have 2x2GB mem... only 2x1....