Shanghai Results (Opteron 2384, 2.7GHz)

[Calmatory]

But they will next year and I am not sure AMD will have anything by then.

Not really. Then again, Intel does not have now. Though, if I was getting server hardware, I'd wait until Nehalem for servers and then get the AMD if the price is low enough. Sure Intel would be fine aswell, but I doubt that they need to start fiddling with price to beat AMD's offerings.

[terrace215]

Looks like the int results are about what was expected (adjusting for 2.7 vs 2.8), while the fp results fall short a bit. Looking at the 2P projections from back in february, here:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178416

In short: Nehalem is substantially faster, as expected.

For even more fun, note that a *single* (1P) Nehalem can score 110 in spec_int_rate_base.

[Bellisimo]

Looks like the int results are about what was expected (adjusting for 2.7 vs 2.8), while the fp results fall short a bit. Looking at the 2P projections from back in february, here:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178416

In short: Nehalem is substantially faster, as expected.

lets remeber shintai's wise words

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...35&postcount=3

People should just remember rates benchmarks are very deceptive. Nehalem basicly just wins this so much due to trichannel and CSI.

[PetNorth]

Looks like the int results are about what was expected (adjusting for 2.7 vs 2.8), while the fp results fall short a bit. Looking at the 2P projections from back in february, here:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178416

In short: Nehalem is substantially faster, as expected.

For even more fun, note that a *single* (1P) Nehalem can score 110 in spec_int_rate_base.

Figure it...

Suddenly, projected scores are valid...


LOL

[lennyvee]

Cool thanks for the post

[justthefax]

No...



Dell uses BEA/Oracle Rockit 6 JVM + Windows 2003 SP1.
IBM uses IBM Java 6 JVM + Windows 2008 SP1.

Those poor guys at Dell, maybe they couldn't afford a Windows 2008 license and so their Intel machine was crippled? And IBM refused to sell their JVM to Dell coz they're so meeeeean?

And did you hear of the W2k8 SP1 security fix that cripples Dunningtons by turning their L3, L2 AND L1 caches off?

The real surprise is how well Intel scores even with its hands tied! Right Shintai?

[FlawleZ]

Those poor guys at Dell, maybe they couldn't afford a Windows 2008 license and so their Intel machine was crippled? And IBM refused to sell their JVM to Dell coz they're so meeeeean?

And did you hear of the W2k8 SP1 security fix that cripples Dunningtons by turning their L3, L2 AND L1 caches off?

The real surprise is how well Intel scores even with its hands tied! Right Shintai?

Seriously? What a monumental failure from Microsoft. How is that even possible?

[Hornet331]

Those poor guys at Dell, maybe they couldn't afford a Windows 2008 license and so their Intel machine was crippled? And IBM refused to sell their JVM to Dell coz they're so meeeeean?

And did you hear of the W2k8 SP1 security fix that cripples Dunningtons by turning their L3, L2 AND L1 caches off?

The real surprise is how well Intel scores even with its hands tied! Right Shintai?

Acutaly he has a point, those two test run on different OSs with different JVM on different hardware.

Hell is there anything that they even have in common?

[Lightman]

Acutaly he has a point, those two test run on different OSs with different JVM on different hardware.

Hell is there anything that they even have in common?

Size??

[Loudwater]

Those poor guys at Dell, maybe they couldn't afford a Windows 2008 license and so their Intel machine was crippled? And IBM refused to sell their JVM to Dell coz they're so meeeeean?

And did you hear of the W2k8 SP1 security fix that cripples Dunningtons by turning their L3, L2 AND L1 caches off?

The real surprise is how well Intel scores even with its hands tied! Right Shintai?

What? That is total BS, 2008 does not turn off the cache.

Quit making things up.

[informal]

What? That is total BS, 2008 does not turn off the cache.

Quit making things up.

It's called sarcasm if you didn't catch it in his post...

[Bellisimo]

btw, the numbers of my post are correct, but i'am not gonna help you find the review

[informal]

I will back up Bellisimo and post the link for the review :
http://www.hardware.info/en-US/produ...84WAL4DGIWOF/#

BTW,nice find Bellisimo

[Bellisimo]

I will back up Bellisimo and post the link for the review :
http://www.hardware.info/en-US/produ...84WAL4DGIWOF/#

BTW,nice find Bellisimo

hehe
correct, it was quite fun playing with the URL's figuring out how to get to the benches
hope you guys were satisfied with results 2 days prior to launch

[gallag]

hehe
correct, it was quite fun playing with the URL's figuring out how to get to the benches
hope you guys were satisfied with results 2 days prior to launch

It did smack a bit of genius Fair play.

[informal]

Yeah great job man .I never came across that site before ,thanks for sharing it's a great site!

[wiak]

dont forget the server parts of amd always have downclocked NB/L3 and lame memory

too bad there arent any desktop benches available

true, phenom 9850 has higher HT/memory
opterons has lower speed why? its needs to have lower power usage to be used in 1U/2U servers, who wants to run a 140W Phenom 9950 in their server, it will overheat easy

given the fact that the new deneb phenoms are 125W vs 75W on opterons says something that the deneb is faster, due to its using more power

got it?

@Bellisimo, a x264 test would be nice

[Shintai]

true, phenom 9850 has higher HT/memory
opterons has lower speed why? its needs to have lower power usage to be used in 1U/2U servers, who wants to run a 140W Phenom 9950 in their server, it will overheat easy

given the fact that the new deneb phenoms are 125W vs 75W on opterons says something that the deneb is faster, due to its using more power

got it?

@Bellisimo, a x264 test would be nice

No thats bull. The reason is chipsets and such. And its 125W TDP desktops vs 75W ACP Opterons. The 75W ACP is 105W TDP for 300mhz less. And that fits quite well with the later 2.8Ghz Deneb at 95W.

[Rammsteiner]

No thats bull. The reason is chipsets and such. And its 125W TDP desktops vs 75W ACP Opterons. The 75W ACP is 105W TDP for 300mhz less. And that fits quite well with the later 2.8Ghz Deneb at 95W.

You could of have said that more... nice though.

Ive to agree on power consumption, but I dont see how chipsets limits the NB clocks at all.

[Gorguls]

http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...?f=52&t=135802