This thread is actually painful to read. I've read talk of respins, low yeailds, high yeilds, bad OC's, good OC's, and not one of those posts have any linkage at all...not one.

This is another thread based on a rumor that took off again on a wild tangeant of half baked guesses.

Nobody even knows if there will be a refresh of either companies offerings. There is no date, no codenames, no branding, no press releases from either company about either of these supposed refreshes. How we got from a rumor to respins is beyond me when nobody even knows if any of this stuff ever existed.

In closing, I guess I finished reading this thread out of the pure shock value at what I was witnessing.