Deneb just around the corner?

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If Deneb comes with a significant IPC boost, great, everybody wins.

But I remember all the talk about how great Thunderbird was going to be too back in the day and it was what, 4 to 5% improvement.

So colour me doubtful about any statements emanating from AMD PR, I wanna see the benchmarks.

Dude, calm down and try using the edit button instead of posting 3 post back to back. I don't think AMD will come to your house and make you buy a Deneb. As far as your Thunderbird comments...Well, the T-Birds were not that bad during their life cycle and the Bartons that followed were very impressive for the price.

They definatly competed well with Intels offering during that time and at a cheaper price too. If you want to give us a history lesson about CPU's, then give us one about the beggining of the whole 64Bit CPU era. The Athlon 64 performed great for years until Intel released Conroe. P4's/Pentium D's weren't worth much for gaming and AMD had the better chips for a long time. Remember that before going out on a limb like this.

At the moment AMD has been struggling. Especially after purchasing ATI. Things will level out at their camp soon. Besides the performance crown always shift between AMD and Intel anyway. Same goes for Nvidia/ATI(AMD). So, overall I don't know what you are ranting about. FYI, AMD hasn't said much of anything reguarding the performance of Denebs. Exactly what PR are you referring to?

I won't say Denebs will be the best thing since sliced bread, but I'm sure they will outperform all of AMD's current line up. No disrespect, but you are coming off very negative and rude. Maybe you should try the XS Intel boards and follow age old advice......."If you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing at all".

If you want to gripe about Denebs atleast wait until they are released.