The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ShawnTRD]

use v2.29ES

As it seems the MF1207 doesn't allow flashing to really old BIOSes (0701) nor RF BIOSes with the 2.39ES utility

I had to:
MF1207 -> MF1201 (downloaded from topic start) (with the 2.39ES utility)
MF1201 -> RF0410 (newest from ASUS webbie) (with the ES2.2xES utility)

So if anyone's wondering why his/her flash isn't working, you might want to try the older utility.



PS: I'm using the Maximus Formula x38 Special Edition rev. 1.02g if it matters.

I'll post some stability stuff later.

[Allubz]

ASUS Rampage Formula x38 Special Edition
Intel E8400 C0 (Scythe Infinity 1x 120, 1x 80 push, 1x 80 pull)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC 800MHz CL3
High-end Air cooling (5x 80mm fans)

CPU: 9*475 = 4.30GHz
RAM: CL5-5-5-15-auto's
Boots: BSOD @ Windows Vista x64 load

CPU: 9*465 = 4.20GHz
RAM: 931MHz CL5
Boots: Windows Vista x64
Prime / OCCT: Unstable (near-instant crash)

CPU: 9*450 = 4.06GHz
RAM: 900MHz CL5
Boots: Windows Vista x64
Prime / OCCT: Unstable (Prime: 1st Thread near-instant, OCCT after 10 secs)

I need some help here >.>

Settings:

Ai OC Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU: Auto
CPU Ratio: 9.0x
FSB Strap: 400
FSB: 450 (at best around 9*500, but I don't think a C0 can do that on high-end air cooling)
PCIE: 110

DRAM: 900+ (FSB500 does 1000MHz is possible stable max pretty sure)
CommandR: 2N
CLK Skew A: Auto
CLK Skew B: Auto
DRam Timing: Man
5-5-5-15 rest Auto

DRAM Static Read: Disabled
Ai Clock TwisteR: Auto
Ai Trans. Booster: Auto

CPU Volt: 1.45
CPU PPL: 1.54
NBv: 1.61
DRAM: 2.30 (+1.0 Overvolt afaik, 2.4v = rated)
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

Spread spectra: Disabled


Only report I get from OCCT is the CPU Temp going up to near 60 degrees in no time, they seem to remain steady around that temperature though (not sure).

Update: 9*400 (everything on Auto) results in max 46 degrees and even then it's unstable.. OCCT Crashed Code 1

Setup defauls = stable

Any help is much appreciated.

Note: Running latest Rampage Formula: 0410

[MacClipper]

Made batch command files for easier crossflashing if anyone's interested, just load onto your flashstick and type Max2Ramp or Ramp2Max as you wish. Latest 1207 and 0410 included.
http://www.4shared.com/file/69814588...rified=8f46ec6

I just did the Max2Ramp without issues, have not tried the Ramp2Max flashback though so YMMV.

HTH.

[lbassa]

ASUS Rampage Formula x38 Special Edition
Intel E8400 C0 (Scythe Infinity 1x 120, 1x 80 push, 1x 80 pull)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC 800MHz CL3
High-end Air cooling (5x 80mm fans)

...

DRAM: 2.30 (+1.0 Overvolt afaik, 2.4v = rated)
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

....


Only report I get from OCCT is the CPU Temp going up to near 60 degrees in no time, they seem to remain steady around that temperature though (not sure).

Update: 9*400 (everything on Auto) results in max 46 degrees and even then it's unstable.. OCCT Crashed Code 1

Setup defauls = stable

Any help is much appreciated.

Note: Running latest Rampage Formula: 0410

Allubz

try relax lat of your memorys, much voltage

Transaction Booster [Disable] [4], less better memory and lat
Lats
5
5
5
15 or 18

in my PC I'm using this:

PCI-E Frequency:100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 900
DRAM Command Rate : 2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : [AUTO]
Row Refresh Cycle Time : [AUTO]
Write Recovery Time : [AUTO]
Read to Precharge Time : [AUTO]

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : [AUTO]
Write to Read Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Write to Read Delay (D) : [AUTO]
Read to Read Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Read to Read Delay (D) : [AUTO]
Write to Write Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Write to Write Delay (D) : [AUTO]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister : [AUTO]
Transaction Booster : [DISABLED] [1]

CPU Voltage : 1.4475 Vroop:1.424
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 Droop+=2.11~2.13

Using 4X1Gb=2X1Gb Cosair XMS2-6400C4 and 2X1GbSupertalent 6400

1000 @5-5-5-18 2.1 Bios ~ 2.22 windows works fine too

[Allubz]

Alright, I tried following, after double/triple reading the Anandtech article and the starting post:

8,5*450 seems to OCCT fine
9*450 wont.

Settings:

Ai OC Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU: Auto
CPU Ratio: 9.0x
FSB Strap: 400
FSB: 450
PCIE: 110

DRAM: 900
CommandR: 2N
CLK Skew A: Auto
CLK Skew B: Auto
DRam Timing: Man
5-5-5-15 rest Auto

DRAM Static Read: Disabled
Ai Clock TwisteR: Strong
Ai Trans. Booster: Auto

CPU Volt: 1.45
CPU PPL: Auto
NBv: 1.61
DRAM: 2.20
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

Spread spectra: Disabled


Any help appreciated..!

[Renegade5399]

Man, been awhile since I posted in here. I got myself an E8600 and a Tpower I45 board. Put everything together and went to OC. Long story short, I have put this board back in and am clocking the 8600 on it. That Tpower may be good for extreme FSB speeds, but man it is a real whore to get working correctly. Once you have the feature set of an ASUS BIOS, you want nothing else. My board is modded to a Rampage on BIOS 0410 and it just loves this 45nm chip. I am still trying to find the max clock I can reach on water right now, but needless to say the performance has been wonderful. Lesson learned here: You get what you pay for.

[loften]

i was close to getting one of those too.. i held out after looking at the bios and reading others issues with it.. i am kind of used to this maximus bios. the rampage bios was pretty sweet on it but started to go haywire after a week. it was doing all kinds of funky things with my usb, it would work and it wouldn't. it was also upping my volts to crazy high volts after i would set them where i wanted them.. so i switched back to the maximus bios and havn't had to many problems with it. these asus bios options once you figure them out are pretty friendly. i came from a socket A board so everything was new to me and it took a while. i don't think i would want anything different now after getting used to it.

[Michowski]

Well im currently trying to get my system stable at 2.82ghz. I have a rampage formula x48, q9550. I had a stable 2.6ghz setup but im trying for some more now just to see what I can get. Heres a ss of everest




I cant even run occt. I either get a code 1 error or code 4. Any suggestions to try and get this stable?

Bios are as follow

cpu- 1.33125V
cpu Pll- 1.5v
NB- 1.43v
Ram- 2.00v
fsb- 1.36v
sb- 1.050v
sb 1.5- 1.5v

[Grnfinger]

Well im currently trying to get my system stable at 2.82ghz. I have a rampage formula x48, q9550. I had a stable 2.6ghz setup but im trying for some more now just to see what I can get. Heres a ss of everest


I cant even run occt. I either get a code 1 error or code 4. Any suggestions to try and get this stable? Il write down my bios voltages and post em up in a minute as well

Your gonna need more vCore on that C1 chip.
E0's will clock high with low volts but not C1's try around 1.35v

[Michowski]

Your gonna need more vCore on that C1 chip.
E0's will clock high with low volts but not C1's try around 1.35v

That helped, thanks. Now occt still wont test because it says, cpu to hot. Its lower 40's so idk why thats to hot.

[Grnfinger]

That helped, thanks. Now occt still wont test because it says, cpu to hot. Its lower 40's so idk why thats to hot.

in OCCT config click the monitoring tab and raise the cpu temp limit

[Michowski]

in OCCT config click the monitoring tab and raise the cpu temp limit

I got a code 1 error

[Grnfinger]

I got a code 1 error

up NB volts to 1.51

[Michowski]

what does the codes mean from occt?

[Michowski]

up NB volts to 1.51

I did that and now it just reboot. I was desktop stable with just the vcore bump.

[Grnfinger]

I did that and now it just reboot. I was desktop stable with just the vcore bump.

post your current bios setup please

[Michowski]

I uploaded the vid to youtube of my xtreme tweaker section. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxz_g9R1eCI

[Grnfinger]

try this, if it passes up FSB to 450 and up vcore a few notches, FSBT might have to be raised to 1.30 or so, LMK how it works out

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Michowski]

My current bios setup


Extreme Tweaker

AI Overclock Tuner- Manual
Overclock from cpu level up- Auto
CPU Ratio- 8.5
FSB strap to Northbridge- Auto
FSB- 448
PCIE Frequency- 100

Dram Frequency- DDR2-1076MHz
Dram Command Rate- Auto
Dram CMD Skew A- Auto
Dram CMD Skew B- Auto
Dram CLK Skew A- Auto
Dram CLK Skew B- Auto
Dram Timing- Auto

CPU- 1.35v
CPU PLL- 1.5v
Northbridge- 1.49v
Dram- 2.00v
FSB- 1.36v
Southbridge- 1.050v
Southbridge 1.5- 1.5v
Dram Controller Voltage REF- Auto
Dram Channel A Voltage REF- Auto
Dram Channel B Voltage REF- Auto

CPU LED Selection- CPU Volts
NB LED- NB volta
Voltiminder LED- Enable

CPU Spread Spectrum- Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum- Disable

[Allubz]

Neither of your two setups managed to boot.

I need a higher NB volt to start with.

But for some reason OCCT and Prime (same code) drop 1 thread within 15 seconds of testing and the other one stops as a result of that (Code 1 / 4).

I'm running 3.6GHz atm which seems stable. And 4 seems stable too, but OCCT says differnet.

Win Vista x64 isn't a problem, when testing OCs?

[Michowski]

Neither of your two setups managed to boot.

I need a higher NB volt to start with.

But for some reason OCCT and Prime (same code) drop 1 thread within 15 seconds of testing and the other one stops as a result of that (Code 1 / 4).

I'm running 3.6GHz atm which seems stable. And 4 seems stable too, but OCCT says differnet.

Win Vista x64 isn't a problem, when testing OCs?

What setup do you have? Same chip and board as me right?

[Allubz]

Oh, I said it a few times before, but forgot to add it to the last post:

ASUS Maximus Formula Special Edition @ Rampage Formula 1410 (same results for both chipsets, got the feeling Rampage does a bit more, though)
Intel E8400 C0 (not sure about batch, sorry)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC PC2-6400 CL3. POST + Boot @ 1066MHz
Windows Vista x64 SP1

Thanks for reading

[Renegade5399]

I have got some screens and settings to post for you guys this evening. I got my 8600 4.5GHz stable today under water cooling. I will update my specs and post my settings and hopefully they will be of some use.

[Michowski]

I couldnt get 3.8 stable so I went back to 3.6. I kept turning the vcore up but never got rid of the code errors on occt.

[Grnfinger]

I have got some screens and settings to post for you guys this evening. I got my 8600 4.5GHz stable today under water cooling. I will update my specs and post my settings and hopefully they will be of some use.

can you provide your VID and batch number of the chip
I might be looking for another 8600, my first 2 were dogs