ASUS P5E64 WS Evolution - Tips, Tricks, Mods, BIOS, OCing & More...

[richard_crl032]

Hi Holmer/Rob,[PHP]

Thanks again for the continued advice and help ........

Glad also to report back that my system is now stable with IBT, Orthos and OCCT !!! The usual windows freeze after notification of dreamscape failing to load at OC and often at default settings is gone gone gone .........

Had to add 2nd fan to my Xigamatek 964 (using this due to height constraint of about 110mm in my Silverstone LC017 HTPC casing) and CPU temp at idle and load dropped by about 10C and 5C to around 40C and 65C respectively but not sure if this is indeed the main issue since with one fan, idle temp is about 48C and load around 70C which I thought is still OK. 2nd fan certainly improved the airflow to rear exhaust fans and also pasted a 70mm fan on top of the NB with 3M heat sensitive tape @1700 rpm ..... Note that this is at non-airconditioned room temp of about 28-30C ... yes, this is in tropical Singapore. Remembered that what got me stable was especially after setting CPU GTL at 0.63X as mentioned in the GTL link from Rob on having Wolfdale preferable at lower CPU GTL of 0.63X but LCC at Performance still does not work.

System:
Mobo : p5e64 ws evolution
CPU : e8600
Hsf : Xigamatek 964 with 2X Scythe 92mm Blue LED @2400RPM push-pull fans with speed control
RAM : 2x2G DDR3-1600 Cosair c9 DHX
GPUs : 4870X2 Crossfire
PSU : Aerocool 1020W
Display : Dell 3007
Casing : Silverstone LC017
Harddisk: 2X Samsung Spinpoint 750G
Drives : LG Blueray/HDVD ROM and DVD RW
Fans : 2 intake 92mm Scythe @2800rpm LED, 2 exhaust 80mm orange Thermaltake 3800 rpm fans (great quiet fans) as well as Aerocool PSU 140mm fan and 80mm fan on 2X4870X2


Anyway, stable setting for my modest OC at 4GHz is as follows for reference to e8600:

BIOS build: 602
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio setting: 10
FSB strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 400
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1601
DRAM Command rate: 1N

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS Latency 7
RAS to CAS Delay 7
RAS to PRE Time 7
RAS ACT Time 20
RAS to RAS Delay Auto
REF Cycle Time Auto
Write Recovery Time Auto
READ to PRE Time Auto
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D) Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) Auto
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay Auto
Read to PRE Delay Auto
PRE to PRE Delay Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay Auto
All PRE to REF Delay Auto
DRAM Static Read Control Disable
DRAM Static Write Control Disable

DRAM Skew Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto

CPU Voltage: 1.3475 (CPUZ at 1.280 load to 1.312v idle ... fluctuation of this mobo up to 5 steps??? at normal LLC or my Aerocool 1020WPSU issue??)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.63x
CPU PLL Voltage 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage 1.30
DRAM Voltage 1.76
NB Voltage 1.41
NB GTL Voltage Reference 0.67
SB Voltage 1.20
Clock Over-Charging Voltage Auto

Load-Line Calibration Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disable
CPU Clock Skew Delay Auto
NB Clock Skew Delay Auto

CIE, TM, Speedtrap etc. all disabled

I will try to reduce some the settings e.g. Vcore of 1.3475v, CPU PLL from 1.56, NB Voltage from 1.45 etc. and any further advice on what is not necessary in my listed settings would certainly be appreciated.

Regards,

Richard

[philbrown23]

is there a vdroop mod out for this board? also if not could someone post the numbers on the epu chip under the epu sticker?

[richard_crl032]

Hi Phil,

You reminded me on the vdroop which I mentioned to be 1.280v load to 1.312v idle or 0.032 !! which I now realised is common with this mobo and managed to find this at a Japanese site:

http://www012.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ohij2/evolution.htm



Had not done pencil mod before but had certainly read about it ... still hesitating to try due to lack of verification knowledge and I am "OK" with my current modest OC of 4.0GHz for my e8600.

Regards,

Richard

[Fitseries3]

thanks. it cut my vdroop in half but its still not solving my problem.

i keep getting 0x000000124 error no matter what i do. this qx9650 must me gimp.

[richard_crl032]

Hi Fitseries3,

I did not note the error msg during BSOD when my OC was not stable but google on your reported error msg indicates hardware failure ... one reported removal of Norton Anti-virus resolved his same BSOD??

Since I noted from your signature that you have the Nvidia gtx260 and also the same ATI 4870X2 crossfire, would it be driver conflicts? You may want to clean out nvidia drivers thoroughly from many hits on google and reinstall the ATI drivers to try again with minimal OC or default.

Unfortunately, it also means that if you continue to fail to find out the reason, you may have to get the minimum hardware setup and add back each hardware until it give you the same error msg again.

Hope it is not your QX9650.

Regards,

Richard

[Nanok]

Truely a great board,my board is booting fsb 630 all still on air, on E8600.

[richard_crl032]

Holmer, Rob,

Bad news ....... I am still getting windows freeze. This happen especially after windows startup programs gets loaded .......does this means that the OC system is stable but there are other drivers, softwares etc. programs or that it is still hardware and OC related.

Regards, Richard

[Holmer]

Hi Richard

It is hard to say whether it is OC or software related. How do you define stability (you write it was stable in IBT, Orthos and OCCT but for how long)? If you believe you Windows/driver install is corrump you know the drill. My wild guess is it may be OC related (maybe RAM/NB issues requirering a higher NB voltage or too low v-core (v-drop is huge with LLC Normal your PSU is probably fine)).

#All
I have uploaded a txt file with OC related BIOS settings. This can be used by everyone (by printing it out from Execl) to easily systematically test settings when overclocking.

[Rainbird]

Hi,
if I run the board with 400 MhZ to CPU (multi 8 = 3200) and Memory (DDR3 = 1600) I always get a frequency of 2,66 MhZ displayed in the Vista system overview although CPU ID displays 3,2 MhZ.
The above is true for enabled or disabled C1E function in the boards bios.

Any idea?

[Rainbird]

Hi,
if I run the board with 400 MhZ to CPU (multi 8 = 3200) and Memory (DDR3 = 1600) I always get a frequency of 2,66 MhZ displayed in the Vista system overview although CPU ID displays 3,2 MhZ.
The above is true for enabled or disabled C1E function in the boards bios.

Any idea?

Hi anybody out there?

[sarkk47]

With new 0601 BIOS the "power-on-double-start-issue" disappeared......

Now the system starts @ first try after plug off the power cable or swich off the PSU. Very nice.........

i have been using the 0602 BIOS for quite a while now but the power on double start issue is persisting when i plug off the power cable or turn off the PSU. it is annoying and i wonder if the double start does some damage to the system in the long run. (i am using an Enermax Infiniti 720W PSU btw.) is that double start issue BIOS/motherboard related?

[ThorLite]

I had the double start thing on P5W-DH,P5K Deluxe,P5E-VM HDMI and P5E WS Evolution of course its a common thing with Asus mobos.

[Rainbird]

Hi,
if I run the board with 400 MhZ to CPU (multi 8 = 3200) and Memory (DDR3 = 1600) I always get a frequency of 2,66 MhZ displayed in the Vista system overview although CPU ID displays 3,2 MhZ.
The above is true for enabled or disabled C1E function in the boards bios.

Any idea?

Hi,
after some testing I found that with CPU-ID the CPU spped is listed at 3,2 GHz and only windows displays a "wrong" speed number. Any experience with that issue?

[richard_crl032]

Hi Holmer/Rob,

Glad to report back that my system is happily running with e8600@4.0GHz. Believe the reason for the previous freeze when window startup is due to some error in the CCC profiles which I created to manage the heat from the 4870X2 Xfire. My settings are as follows:

-P5e64 ws evolution BIOS 0601
-e8600 with xigamatek 964 hsf
-Corsair TW3X4G1600C9DHX 1600MHz 4GB Kit DDR3
-PowerColor 4870X2 CrossFire
-Aerocool Horsepower 1020W

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio setting: 10.0
FSB strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 400
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1600
DRAM Command rate: 1N

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS Latency 7
RAS to CAS Delay 7
RAS to PRE Time 7
RAS ACT Time 20
RAS to RAS Delay A
REF Cycle Time A
Write Recovery Time A
READ to PRE Time A
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D) A
Write to Read Delay (S) A
Write to Read Delay (D) A
Read to Read Delay (S) A
Read to Read Delay (D) A
Write to Write Delay (S) A
Write to Write Delay (D) A
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay A
Read to PRE Delay A
PRE to PRE Delay A
All PRE to ACT Delay A
All PRE to REF Delay A
DRAM Static Read Control Disable
DRAM Static Write Control Disable

DRAM Skew Control: A

Ai Clock Twister: A

Ai Transaction Booster: A

CPU Voltage: 1.33XX (CPUID at 1.304v)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference A
CPU PPL Voltage 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage 1.32
DRAM Voltage 1.76
NB Voltage Auto or 1.35
NB GTL Voltage Reference A
SB Voltage A
Clock Over-Charging Voltage A

Load-Line Calibration Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disable
CPU Clock Skew Delay 100ps
NB Clock Skew Delay 100ps

[Holmer]

Hi Richard
Good to hear you solved the problem. Very fine settings. If you are still in the mood of tweaking the next step is to tighten the memory subsystem (assuming your CPU is at the max for your cooling). I am currently running with the following (24h+ Prime95 + game stable) settings to give you some inspiration:

CPU Ratio setting: 10.0
FSB strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 425
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1701
DRAM Command rate: 1N

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS Latency 8
RAS to CAS Delay 7
RAS to PRE Time 7
RAS ACT Time 18
RAS to RAS Delay 5
REF Cycle Time 60
Write Recovery Time 10
READ to PRE Time 5

The rest like you

Ai Transaction Booster: Manual -> Common Performance Level 6

CPU Voltage: 1.46875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.65
CPU PPL Voltage 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage 1.32
DRAM Voltage 1.86
NB Voltage 1.59 (more than that turned out to be unstable in games)
NB GTL Voltage Reference 0.67
SB Voltage 1.05
Clock Over-Charging Voltage A

These settings give me in Everest Ultimate 4.6 (rough numbers):
Read: 11290
Write: 8930
Copy: 9390
Latency: 45.7 (nice)

You get the most noticable performance gain by lowering the Common Performance level (in the Ai Transaction Booster menu). However, keep in mind tightening especially this requires an increase in NB voltage. Move slowly when tightening timings it is hard to tell what your memory and NB can handle.
Happy tweaking mate!

[BenchZowner]

In case you guys didn't notice, there's a new BIOS available since Mid-November or so.
It's v0701
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...UTION-0701.zip

[ThorLite]

In case you guys didn't notice, there's a new BIOS available since Mid-November or so.
It's v0701
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...UTION-0701.zip

Thanks a lot for the link....

[Holmer]

Thanks BenchZowner.
I have not had time to test BIOS 0701, anybody else have experiences with it to share?

[richard_crl032]

Hi Holmer,

Thanks for the tips ... will try out and see what happens. Richard

[Helgart]

Hi

I need some help with my Evo pls.

I need settings for High FSB with Dualcore(Wolfdale) and i need settings for My Cellshock PC14400.

Ican´t boot a FSB 500.

pls help

[Vatos_locos]

witch bios would be the best to clock one Q9550 ? i use the 0802 but it seems that it can pass the 430Fsb stable :/ and the cpu can do 495x8.5 stable @ 1.31 with my avenger board

[M40TURBO]

How did you guys get the vcore over 1,5V with this MB??? Mine stopes att 1,5v

[Sebaa]

Hi!

I have some problems with this mobo...

CPU: E3110
RAM: Corsair CM3X 1024-1800C7DIN
PSU: Ikonik 800W
GPU: Asus HD 4850 TOP
WaterColling

My RAM is running with th XMP and system running with FSB 450 and RAM 1800 MHz. CPU speed is 3150MHz with multplier x 7.
It's looking stable for SPi 1M, 8M, 16M, Orthos 30min ( I don't have much more time) and 3D Mark test... but...
AI SUITE program from supported DVD doesn't work, sometimes the CPU-Z stop working... On default settings everything operating normally...
Please look for my BIOS setup...
I need some advice...












Thanks!

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

Hello again


Intel paper-sheets say max Vnb is 1.375v. Many of you guys are running way above that. How's the stability?

I'm testing 4x2GB sticks for a total of 8GB. At 500FSB with 8GB 1333mhz, Vnb doesn't seem to do affect much. I'm at 1.35v. Many people say I need way above 1.4v to get 8GB stable. 8GB seem to be affected way more by the timmings than the Vnb.

I will test this some more and I'll post results.

Bye

[|Oc|REvO_HsArC]

Definitely unnecessary in my case to have Vnb above 1.3v. Currently running 1.29v for 500FSB 8GB DDR3 1333mhz 8-8-8-28 1T. IBT/memtest stable.

oddly enough, it appears during my tests I either killed my PSU or my HD4870x2 lol.
I thought 700w 70amps (3x 18 + 1x 20 rails) were enough.