Deneb Samples are almost out

[Shintai]

Sucess? Is it available?

Actually yes

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...-out-wild.html

[AbelJemka]

Actually yes

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...-out-wild.html

Same picture than 2 days ago...
So one guy manages to get one...
If AMD do launch like this it's a "paper lauch", no? (kidding!)

[Shintai]

Same picture than 2 days ago...
So one guy manages to get one...
If AMD do launch like this it's a "paper lauch", no? (kidding!)

You asked if it was available. It was.

Would be nice if AMD could release the chips soon. But being quiet usually means there is no bang. Plus it might not be before 2009. I wonder if they stretch it like 65nm, just to be able to put a 45nm checkmark in 2008.

Also for people to expect 15-25% of deneb? Jeebus...Be happy if its 5%. 15-25% is more than K8->K10.
45nm K10s primary goal is to save them from the current suicide train in productioncost. The L3 less dualcore is also a demonstration of it.

[stangracin2]

shintai you do realize noone really pays attention to your ramblings because you sit there witing for an amd thread to come up so you can troll

[Hornet331]

shintai you do realize noone really pays attention to your ramblings because you sit there witing for an amd thread to come up so you can troll

actually you just did.

[stangracin2]

actually you just did.

i was making sure someone told him

[Rammsteiner]

Anyway, my prediction for Deneb vs Intel's products? I think untill Lynnsfield is out Deneb went trough a few revisions, eventually high/k and metal gates, being able to actually be a good competitor for Lynnsfield and the skt 775 platform. Performance wise I do see Deneb being able to beat/keep up with Yorkfield a lot better, at least in most daily apps. Vs Lynnsfield, not sure about performance, but AMD will be able to be more competitive with price/performance competition than it's now with Agena vs Yorkfield or even Kentsfield.

Anyway, time will tell and it's only what I think. It depends on more factors than just 'Deneb owns' or 'Lynnsfield has only dual channel anyway'. For example, price of Lynnsfield's platform. I dont think it's going to be as overpriced as current Bloomsfield platform due to less technology etc. But as said, time will tell.

[AbelJemka]

You asked if it was available. It was.

It was one time in one shop for one guy!
Come on it's nowhere available

[chew*]

Just out of curiosity If deneb is 10-15% faster + if they were able to fix the errata wouldn't that equivalate to a 25% performance increase over they're current product?
Maybe i'm wrong, been out of the amd camp/loop for a while. I'm not sure how much the "patch" cost the phenoms in % / performance.

[Shintai]

Just out of curiosity If deneb is 10-15% faster + if they were able to fix the errata wouldn't that equivalate to a 25% performance increase over they're current product?
Maybe i'm wrong, been out of the amd camp/loop for a while. I'm not sure how much the "patch" cost the phenoms in % / performance.

The bug is already fixed in B3.

[JumpingJack]

Just out of curiosity If deneb is 10-15% faster + if they were able to fix the errata wouldn't that equivalate to a 25% performance increase over they're current product?
Maybe i'm wrong, been out of the amd camp/loop for a while. I'm not sure how much the "patch" cost the phenoms in % / performance.

This is why I never really like PR/Marketing from most all companies ... it seems they want to confuse as many people as possible.

AMD released Phenom with B2 stepping, the TLB errata, but when they demoed the chip to the press, the chip was not patched with the performance hit... what you saw was basically what you got.

The TLB patch turns off the tlb and the performance hit is massive, those numbers never made it into mainstream reviews, though some sites a few really good ones and some second tier, did a nice TLB vs non-TLB follow up.

B3 came out earlier this year, and fixed that TLB errata -- it was irrelevant since the B2 was basically rock solid, I have never seen the bug manifest itself (as is the case with most errata). B3 was equivalent IPC (Clock for clock) to B2 but with several bug fixes (bugs you would have never seen in the first place).