Unlocked multies is for wussies... real men overclock the fsb.. or qpi
Unlocked multies is for wussies... real men overclock the fsb.. or qpi
You are correct.Originally Posted by Tonucci
Each model has 2 higher multipliers unlocked.
The 920 with the 20x multi can go up to 22x, the 940 can go up to 24x and the extreme... oh well it's fully unlocked
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but true men overclock and adjust both.Unlocked multies is for wussies... real men overclock the fsb.. or qpi
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You know what, my wallet disagrees but I can pm you my shipping info if you mean itbut true men overclock and adjust both.
Sweet, thanks for the confirmationYou are correct.
Each model has 2 higher multipliers unlocked.
The 920 with the 20x multi can go up to 22x, the 940 can go up to 24x and the extreme... oh well it's fully unlocked
Looks like the 940 will be needed to fully clock nehalen on air.... At least if initial boards clock QPI like OBR said. IF 200Mhz++ QPI becomes an reality for 24/7 operation than 920's will be sweet too.
Last edited by Tonucci; 10-30-2008 at 03:54 PM.
LOL he is in fact, but that's besides the point, he speaks the truth.Yorkfield 30% faster on avg? What are you, an Intel employee?
Yorkfields are clocked higher than Phenoms too remember, we're talking about a ~15% higher IPC and 3GHz+ vs 2.6GHz max, so yes, 30% is quite accurate if we're taking the top chips from Intel and AMD. Oh and please don't get started about how we're comparing a $1k CPU to a $200 one... that's really not the point here.
I thought the turbo mode only worked in limited cases and for the i920 and i940 it didn't bump the multiplier up at all?
real men max out the FSB and then continue to raise the multiplierUnlocked multies is for wussies... real men overclock the fsb.. or qpi
Well that sounds very promising! Given i d be happy with 3.6ghz ish, as with the perf gain of 5% at least, its almost a 3.8 yorkie.
i920 seems like it could be a fun choice nowif msi can keep that promise.. OBR said his mobo died on flash so , i guess i ll have to wait until nda to know. Do you know the retail of that board.. under 300$ i hope?
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AudiFreak already got the shipping info, bring it onreal men max out the FSB and then continue to raise the multiplier
Jk, I know I wouldn't mind having an unlocked multi 775 as I'm very fsb limited on my old p5wdh but .. it's the piece of hw I paid the most for iirc in my whole rig so it's staying till it breaks
Very nice! but alas the ES means the multi is unlocked so we dont know for sure what the qpi is, but nice to know its achieveable regardless
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Turbo Mode is controlled by the "BIOS" and is trigger-controlled.
On the other hand, you can hard-set the multiplier in the BIOS
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I'm going to bet you allot of people will be trying to break this x2 boost limit to the multi, I hope they pull it off ( sorry Intel but my own pockets come first, I'd rather buy your lowest end and make it run faster then your stock championTurbo Mode is controlled by the "BIOS" and is trigger-controlled.
On the other hand, you can hard-set the multiplier in the BIOS
And they will all fail, you cant break into something that isn't there.I'm going to bet you allot of people will be trying to break this x2 boost limit to the multi, I hope they pull it off ( sorry Intel but my own pockets come first, I'd rather buy your lowest end and make it run faster then your stock champion
sorry if i've missed it. but is that on air and stable?
Axp days are over? turbo is bios controlled who knows what the communities brightest can do
I'm not holding my breath for it but I wouldn't faint when I hear it's done ( or.. I'll faint becuase I want one )
Well unless you are benching, i can actually see the powersaving and turbo mode features coming in useful, if I have my quad clocked at 3.8 - 4.0 at decent load and idle temps on air, i dont mind it powering down cores to save power and temps (wear and tear) as well as boosting up to 4.1, 4.2 if needed.I'm going to bet you allot of people will be trying to break this x2 boost limit to the multi, I hope they pull it off ( sorry Intel but my own pockets come first, I'd rather buy your lowest end and make it run faster then your stock champion
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As far as i understood nehalems turbo, its is controlled by the PCU and bios has only a switch to enable/disable it.Axp days are over? turbo is bios controlled who knows what the communities brightest can do
I'm not holding my breath for it but I wouldn't faint when I hear it's done ( or.. I'll faint becuase I want one )
I doubt someone is brave enough to mess with the firmware of the PCU, hell i doubt its even possible to manipulate it.
Btw. question regarding the PCU, since its controlling all the whole powerconsumption of the cpu and gets all the Informations about Temps/Voltages, is there going to be a whitepaper on how to use that data?
Last edited by Hornet331; 10-30-2008 at 04:31 PM.
Powering down cores...
HERACY
I think you meant to say that they just froze their current high end sales through an Osbourn effect.
What it does, though, is replaces their high end offering with a new high end offering, the current high end offering will slide down into the mid range, and the mid range will slide down into the low end... this is called progress.
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How much money I had in the bank Nor what my cloths looked like.... But The world may be a little better Because, I was important In the life of a child.
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LoL, I know, I know, i should fold with it, whilst not in use, but seriously, I lost a lot of money this past few months...thanks to a few bad trades, so I m on conservation/rebuild life mode at the moment, so savings matter again.Powering down cores...
HERACY
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...*heresy*...
You need to follow and read..Yorkfield 30% faster on avg? What are you, an Intel employee?
Yes, he is..
Francois Piednoel, the gentleman who was behind the development of the SkullTrail board and much more I'd imagine.
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Actually, it is true ... but under conditions of pure CPU limited measurements, for example, if you compare Phenom to Yorkfield at the same clock speeds at 1920x1200 using a nVidia 8500GT ... they will appear equal, but if you measure at 1280x1024 using a 280GT Yorksfield, on average, will be 20-30% faster clock for clock.Yorkfield 30% faster on avg? What are you, an Intel employee?
This does not make Phenom a cruddy gaming CPU, it can easily support high frame rates to make an enjoyable game... however, at an architectural level, the Yorkfield IPC is just much higher running gaming code.
I understand many people who are attached to their product preference do not accept this or like the result, but it is pretty much the case. RWT did an outstanding article to understand why this is the case:
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT102808015436 here they compare an older K8 overall, but the general idea is the same. Most of the good performance in the core architecture arises from efficient use of cache and, most importantly, very strong branch prediction -- Intel's branch prediction just overwhelms AMD's implementation.
Last edited by JumpingJack; 10-30-2008 at 07:18 PM.
One hundred years from now It won't matter
What kind of car I drove What kind of house I lived in
How much money I had in the bank Nor what my cloths looked like.... But The world may be a little better Because, I was important In the life of a child.
-- from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft
go through the page here: http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/1...eurs/page9.phpYorkfield 30% faster on avg? What are you, an Intel employee?
translated to english : http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
100 CPU tested! And that look more than 30% to me ...
what about this:
Last edited by Drwho?; 10-30-2008 at 06:48 PM.
DrWho, The last of the time lords, setting up the Clock.
Howcome you don't link to the overall performance graph which averages over all the tests? i.e. this one ("Une moyenne des 21 tests est ensuite calculée et reporté dans le graphe ci-dessous."):
2.5GHz Phenom 114.4
2.5GHz Yorkfield 139.9
18.2% or 22.3% difference depending on what you take as the base. Most would take that as ballpark 20%. 30%? Only Intel employees and Shintai
I don't have a problem with company reps like Intel or OCZ posting here but trash-talking business rivals and using fanboi-math is distasteful and inappropriate. Getting too cosy eventually corrupts - remember Novak or Judith Miller? Or the newly-saccharine Bob Woodward?
When a large company uses these types of forums to spread the word about their products, it's a privilege for them to be allowed to post, not a favor they bestow on the forum.
go through the page here: http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/1...eurs/page9.php
translated to english : http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
100 CPU tested! And that look more than 30% to me ...
what about this:
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