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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo_Fox View Post
    I just voted this thread with a 1-star "terrible" rating. Nobody seems to be reading each other's posts (including my posts). It's an overly bloated thread anyways. I do not want to be thread-crapping but honestly that's what I voted for 150+ argumentative posts on this thread. Next time, more statistics and less drama please.
    I disagree.

    All of my posts were humurous and non-argumentative... so that makes it only 145+ argumentative posts

    Edit... whoops.... that was an argumentative post, wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker View Post
    I disagree.

    All of my posts were humurous and non-argumentative... so that makes it only 145+ argumentative posts

    Edit... whoops.... that was an argumentative post, wasn't it?

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    Big bump but Scan.co.uk has received a sample
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    Model︰Ture Copper Ultra-120 Extreme
    Weight︰1.8KG
    Price︰99USD
    Sell Date:the Month
    new Limited qty 1000




    Left:Ture Copper Ultra-120 Extreme,Right:Ture black Ultra-120 Extreme











    Last edited by sxs112; 10-17-2008 at 05:51 AM.

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    base finish looks to have machining marks :s

    hopefully its at least flat

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    just a 1000 ?? great.. what are chances of actually being able to buy 2 of these now..

    when available ??

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    Toms says there be 2000 produced and they be out "this month"

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    test please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker View Post
    I disagree.

    All of my posts were humurous and non-argumentative... so that makes it only 145+ argumentative posts

    Edit... whoops.... that was an argumentative post, wasn't it?

    Sorry I didnt mean 150.. i meant 100+.. LOL Most of yours were good, IIRC!

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    wow is this the only pure copper HSF so far? must be heavy...
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    I predict a re-release after initial run at $20 less...

    What do I know though.

    And this price is ridiculous i hope it gives significant improvement..

    To me this looks more like a marketing experiment to see if the community will accept a $100 cooler.

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    If its $100, we're going into a cheap watercooling setup...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFireDragon View Post
    wow is this the only pure copper HSF so far? must be heavy...
    Thermaltake had an all copper one a few years back called the tower 112. It's a heavy beast, weighs over 2 lbs, but works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darks0ulz View Post
    If its $100, we're going into a cheap watercooling setup...
    $100 won't get you a watercooling setup worth a crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xVeinx View Post
    Thermaltake had an all copper one a few years back called the tower 112. It's a heavy beast, weighs over 2 lbs, but works well.
    There was also the Hyper6 years back, I've still got one somewhere heavy little sob.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NotFred View Post
    Have we all completely ignored my post previously where I demonstrated that for a given power draw, and a given airflow, the ambient temperature inside the case is the same? No matter what cooling is going on inside the case.

    The heat from the CPU cannot disappear into mysterious magical places; it all has to leave the case once the system is in steady state. The only way to do this is via the airflow (the case itself will never get hot enough to start radiating heat).

    If anyone can point out the flaw in this argument I’d appreciate it…
    There are three ways to transfer thermal energy.


    If there is a completely sealed case and components generating heat inside, the air inside will will heat. As the hot air goes up, the heat from the air transfers to the metal case because the casing metal is cooler than the air in the case. This then creates delta between the metallic case and the ambient room temperature. The bigger the delta is, the more heat is being transfered off from the case. Method like this, of course, is very inefficient when compared to a case coolers, but it works to a some degree. Better with hot components.

    Well, as I said, the method is inefficient. But however, the case CAN heat up. It can burn your fingers. It can cause a fire in your room etc. Of course, the components would die before such an accident would happen, but nothing prevents that from happening if the components inside the sealed case generate enough heat. Enough being more than the case can radiate or conduct heat until the case temperature is high enough to e.g. start a fire.

    Just a note for some people here:

    If you have a isolated case, with 400 W(static, measured from the wall plug) "worth" () of hardware, the ambient air in the room will be heated with 400 W, no matter how many fans or coolers it has. Same with water cooling. Same with peltier elements(as long as the 400 W is drawn from the wall.) Even if you had no fans, no coolers, 6 CPUs and 4 GFX cards with 64 GB of RAM and the system draws 400 W, it will not heat up the room any more or less than a single 400 W hair drier, or any other household item which draws the 400 W from the wall.

    For some it seems that if you have a passive CPU heatsink(80C), it will heat the case more than a active(same heatsink with a fan attached) heatsink(45C) would. Same goes with GFX cards, unless the air is blown out of the case due to added fan/increased RPM. Some people keep thinking that if you have e.g. HD4850 with 15 % fan RPM and the card tops at 95C under load, it will heat the case more than it would with 100 % fan. Which is false(more RPM translates to more energy needed by the rotor of the fan, which means more heat).

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    anyone have an idea of how this limited release is going to be distributed? or what retailers are going to get them?

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    i thought 1000 pieces

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    Quote Originally Posted by xVeinx View Post
    Thermaltake had an all copper one a few years back called the tower 112. It's a heavy beast, weighs over 2 lbs, but works well.
    I was using 112 till 1 week ago when i got my new pc Damn sexy cooler, biggest fans was 92mm though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    $100 won't get you a watercooling setup worth a crap.
    Nope, but it buys a ddc and some tygon tubing

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOE View Post
    useless and too heavy, if people want lower temps there are far better ways than breaking your mobo
    Such as? +$200 water cooling + all the hassle for (more) unrelaible (than air cooling) cooling system?

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    If it gives at least a 4C average temp difference it's worth it. Since the original true is just as good as a entry water kit this might take some market back from the badwater.
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    After speaking to the guys downstairs about the cooler they have stated that in a few tests it has been a massive 10 degrees cooler than the standard TRUE 120 edition and about 7 degrees cooler than the TRUE 120 black edition cooler.

    Therefore it does appear to be very good at cooling, but a bit on the heavy side which is causing them to stroke their chins and hum a lot
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    pinch of salt, I always thought the TRUE and TRUE black were identical in temps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmatory View Post

    If you have a isolated case, with 400 W(static, measured from the wall plug) "worth" () of hardware, the ambient air in the room will be heated with 400 W, no matter how many fans or coolers it has. Same with water cooling. Same with peltier elements(as long as the 400 W is drawn from the wall.) Even if you had no fans, no coolers, 6 CPUs and 4 GFX cards with 64 GB of RAM and the system draws 400 W, it will not heat up the room any more or less than a single 400 W hair drier, or any other household item which draws the 400 W from the wall.



    This is not true. A large majority of that 400W is converted to "work" (either mechanical or electrical). Inefficiency and resistance leads to heat generation, but it is nowhere near the full 400W that the system is drawing at the wall.
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