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Thread: 3.2G OC'd CORE i7 940 vs. 3.16Ghz Stock E8500 vs. 3.2Ghz Stock QX9770 Complete Review

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    3.2G OC'd CORE i7 940 vs. 3.16Ghz Stock E8500 vs. 3.2Ghz Stock QX9770 Complete Review

    Looks like video games don't make a damn bit of difference with nehalem vs. penryn or 2 vs. 4 cores.

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    Conclusions (Translated from Chinese):


    "[Summary of the test and feelings]

    As the next generation of Intel's top-most powerful CPU, Core i7 very strong performance, basically all non-game-type projects are bypassing behalf of the Royal QX9770, with 20-30% of the under-frequency performance advantages bring To speed up the experience is perfect, no amount of computing in a number of heavy multi-threaded performance of the procedure under almost the trumpet is a "Skulltrail" platform, such as in Sisoft Sandra 2009, the performance is very good, far exceeds the contrast product platform.

    Good finish, we are concerned at the lack of: First of all, many of the current software for multi-core CPU utilization is far from being in place; Secondly, no software can use to Nehalem's built-in memory controller, and then AMD memory controller into the CPU when the internal procedures we have in most years have seen nearly 20% of the performance; HT Hyper-Threading technology is still not the level of play; enhance the performance of the game is limited, you can see from this For fans of the game, you want to play cool games, the use of more high-end GPU is the best.

    Prices of Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition i7-965 (3.2GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601965, QPI 6.4GT/sec), is expected to priced at 999 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-940 (2.93GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601940, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 562 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-920 (2.66GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601920, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 284 U.S. dollars. I am afraid that most people are concerned about is the lowest frequency, the lowest price of Intel Core i7-920, its overclocking performance in the end, the price could drop even further and so on are players who ask.

    There are of concern to the memory / CPU voltage, although there are many articles that Nehalem's CPU and memory voltage is the voltage increase or decrease in sync, but we can only say that based on a different BIOS design, there will be a different situation, Intel was very Clear that if the voltage setting beyond the scope of 1.50V-1.65V, it may affect the life of CPU. While in previous tests we are used to adjust the voltage to a high extent to achieve a better level of performance, but this time we strongly recommend that all players are as much as possible to maintain the value of the voltage in the range Intel provided, in In the near future, the memory manufacturers are likely to produce some of the low voltage of DDR3-1066 to DDR3-1600 memory, and to maintain a very low delay, the current JEDEC standard DDR3 can be completely normal in the run X58, the delay is only slightly higher A number.

    However, I personally still insist that if a good motherboard design work, a good cooling equipment, as well as excellent BIOS design ,1.7-1 .8 V voltage is acceptable (I purely personal opinion), so in the future The high-frequency low-voltage version of DDR3 memory will be able to lower the voltage to achieve the 1866-2200MHz frequency, while not meeting the extreme demands of enthusiasts, but for most of the players have accepted the terms. The author's personal experience is that if the three-channel state of 1.65V to achieve DDR3-1333 5-5-5-12, or DDR3-1500 / 1600 6-6-5-15, memory bandwidth is also considerable. So i7/X58 for the players, not the kind of user P45/X38/X48 similar high-low-frequency effects of delayed memory."

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    HL2 EP2 graph is


    ROFLMAOMFGWTFBBQSAUSAGE
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    so are they launching BD soon or a comic book?

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    yah - it looks like an nv vs. ati marketing graph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    HL2 EP2 graph is


    ROFLMAOMFGWTFBBQSAUSAGE
    My words exactly. It looked like something that scaled perfectly with threads

    But looking on the rest. Then I say overall ty site.

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    I hate graphs that don't start from zero...
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    They used a 9800GTX card, making their gaming benchmarks irrelevant.

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    There is just a difference of 4 fps under HL2, and they show as if its 50 - 60
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredpace View Post
    Looks like video games don't make a damn bit of difference with nehalem vs. penryn or 2 vs. 4 cores.
    Only game engine out there that can is truly multithreared, in sense that it isn't specifically two or quad core optimized, but multi-threaded is "Unreal Engine 3"

    Here is illustration:

    this is four sessions of "CTF_strident_flyby" benchmarking:
    from left to right:
    1. 1280x1024 Lowest setting
    2. 1280x1024 Highest settings
    3. 1680x1050 Highest settings
    4. 1920x1200 Highest settings

    So what you can see is that rendering engine is truly multithreades (no AI, no physix involved).

    Regardless of GPU load, CPU load stays consistent and that's true sign of quality multithreaded optimization. for example in Crysis you can detect dual core optimization only in low gfx settings and heavy physix scenarios... Crytech2 graphics engine is still singlethreaded...

    Also one curious thing is that UE3 scaling beyond three threads is really weak which is expected, 'cos generally multithreadin in 3D engines is optimally three-threaded (logic, load, render)

    The logic thread is the main thread (this thread creates the window and the device) and runs the mainloop (and the windows procedure events).

    All rendering calls are done only from the rendering thread (VSYNC is enabled).

    and the load thread is basically self explanatory...

    So, point is eight "virtual" threads of Nehalem will bring none whatsoever benefit for games!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
    They used a 9800GTX card, making their gaming benchmarks irrelevant.
    In Crysis maby, but in HL2?

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    LOL they're not even using REALISTIC SETTINGS and still, the E8500 doesn't look bad. Not really news tho, the €i7 isn't made for gamers specifically.

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    starting to lean towards a Q9550 for gaming, all the extra cash for the next gen's cpu, board and memory could be spent on a better vid card or monitor, there's barely any game that uses 4 cores properly so a quad core will last until the next console gen..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mats View Post
    the €i7 isn't made for gamers specifically.
    I see whut you did there
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    so are they launching BD soon or a comic book?

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    This review uses a single 9800gtx and dual channel DDR3 1066
    I think we can pretty much put this in the recycling bin and wait for trash day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    I see whut you did there
    Yeah, almost as funny as writing M$ or µ$!!

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    Well if these are true results, i will be holding on to my system for a bit longer, probably into next year when the 8 core cpu's come out, then i will upgrade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAR View Post
    Well if these are true results, i will be holding on to my system for a bit longer, probably into next year when the 8 core cpu's come out, then i will upgrade!
    you will not see 8-core CPU's before 2010!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovnaft View Post
    This review uses a single 9800gtx and dual channel DDR3 1066
    I think we can pretty much put this in the recycling bin and wait for trash day.
    not many instants where the tri channel is better then dual. beside the dual is really good.
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    tri channel results so far have show worse performance in games anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    you will not see 8-core CPU's before 2010!
    There will be, but they will be like what the 6 core Dunnington Xeon that Intel has, in other words, very expensive and only meant for multi-socket systems. Maybe GAR is willing to pay for that, but I don't think so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredpace View Post
    tri channel results so far have show worse performance in games anyway.
    Where? I have feeling you think on the pconline chart. Unfortunately it says loading times in seconds.
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    yah i was looking at the load time graphs, but even here with tri-channel (with and without smt) in cod4 performance is sub-par when compared to penryn :



    The point is, where is the reason behind building a $1500 i7 system vs. a $500 core2 system if you're a gamer? $1000 in video cards will make a bigger difference, and you will end up paying the same price in the end to have a 5x faster PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredpace View Post
    The point is, where is the reason behind building a $1500 i7 system vs. a $500 core2 system if you're a gamer?
    Maybe there's a big reason for it a year from now, but by then we all wait for 32 nm and remembers the first, buggy X58 systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovnaft View Post
    This review uses a single 9800gtx and dual channel DDR3 1066
    I think we can pretty much put this in the recycling bin and wait for trash day.
    agreed

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    This is very disappointing for gamers, this means we'll have to wait for the next arch SandyBridge and (a big maybe) AMDs Bulldozer to see any real improvement in games. On the upside if the most cpu intensive apps you run are games and you allready have a 45nm C2D you won't have to spend money on a CPU anytime soon.

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    All this time i've been praying for the Core i7 to completely render my current Q6600 Overclocked obsolete.


    I'm sticking to my current CPU and just buying a new GPU and an SSD instead.

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