The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[kup]

Hey! I'v just got my new Asus Maximus II Formula, Can som Post (Or Re-post) some picz of their Bios-settings?

I've got an E1200 celeron CPU (yeah, i know - it sucks :P). I have reaced 3.45 ghz (1.425 volt) already, but i want to get longer, and since i haven't change anything besides volt-settings, frequency, and disabled all that Eist-function .

Someone?

Wrong thread, dude. Check out the Maximus II thread for settings.

[19*12 gamer]

Alright! Thanks everyone, you all have been a great help.

I managed to move my fsb-wall from to 455 to 488 by changing the fsb:mem divider from 1:1 to 5:6. My ram will then run at 11008Mhz which is very high imho for 800Mhz ram. I also did not get the 4.4Ghz stable but thats because i did not want to raise mem voltage.
I have OCZ Titanium XTC RAM and was wondering what the max voltage is +- cuz im running it on 2.3v now (1088Mhz stable) (set to auto in bios)
When on 800Mhz it needs 2.064 according to bios readings, but that might be the maximus pushing it. (it works on 1.8 too for 800MHz set manually)
My temps rise like crazy when oc-ed to 4.2+, @4Ghz max 42degrees, at 4.2+Ghz going to 100%load gets it INSTANTLY 49 degrees? (all apps, its not very high but the instant-thing didn't feel good to me.

Bottom question is: Is 2.4v too much for 800Mhz 1.8v ram? (going to buy 1066 this week anyway, but like oc-ing more then "just upgrading")

[Grnfinger]

Alright! Thanks everyone, you all have been a great help.

I managed to move my fsb-wall from to 455 to 488 by changing the fsb:mem divider from 1:1 to 5:6. My ram will then run at 11008Mhz which is very high imho for 800Mhz ram. I also did not get the 4.4Ghz stable but thats because i did not want to raise mem voltage.
I have OCZ Titanium XTC RAM and was wondering what the max voltage is +- cuz im running it on 2.3v now (1088Mhz stable) (set to auto in bios)
When on 800Mhz it needs 2.064 according to bios readings, but that might be the maximus pushing it. (it works on 1.8 too for 800MHz set manually)
My temps rise like crazy when oc-ed to 4.2+, @4Ghz max 42degrees, at 4.2+Ghz going to 100%load gets it INSTANTLY 49 degrees? (all apps, its not very high but the instant-thing didn't feel good to me.

Bottom question is: Is 2.4v too much for 800Mhz 1.8v ram? (going to buy 1066 this week anyway, but like oc-ing more then "just upgrading")

2.4 volts might be a little xtreme for the ram, I would get a fan on them

[19*12 gamer]

And what about the voltage, won't i fry them? I can keep them cool, no problem

[carepolice]

1.8 to 2.4 is big jump, better keep em cool

[Commander_HK47]

2.4 volts might be a little xtreme for the ram, I would get a fan on them

I would general agree with this as excessive voltage will kill ram faster than any thing else(i know from experience from Athlon XP days...), I'm not sure what your memory ICs are rated for, however it would behooveyou(like myself with other tings)to look in forums/topics that cover your memory if you don't already know the specs for the memory. This way you can save your self some RMA time.

[Grnfinger]

And what about the voltage, won't i fry them? I can keep them cool, no problem

I have ran my GSkills at 2.3 volts for months 24/7 no issues, I think heat will larger factor that volts on your dimms.
You can check with the rep on XS

[Lamb]

Hey guys!

So I received my new Q9550, SLAWQ Batch # L818B188.
My Maximus Formula has Rampage Formula Bios Revision 308 and my ram is 4gb Mushkin Ascents PC-8500 2.10V

The max FSB I could get with everything to auto was 440, 445 = bluescreen, freeze, crash... I'm on air cooling (TRUE-120 + Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000RPM) but I'll buy my last watercooling pieces in some weeks.

I'd like to have it rollin at 3.6ghz or 3.8ghz, as stable as possible with the most performances for air cooling I can get for the moment.

EDIT : Updated - Tweaked it a bit myself looking at previous Grnfinger bios post...seems very stable, can it be tweaked more?

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [435]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1045]
DRAM Command Rate [Auto] (CPU-Z = 2T)
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [55]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]

Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Common Performance Level [Auto]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.3750V] (CPU-Z = 1.352V)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.51]
DRAM Voltage [2.10v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

[19*12 gamer]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store:
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today

[carepolice]

1066 MHz/DDR2

Latency 5-5-5-15-2T

tested 100% stable @1600Mhz

wow

[kup]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store:
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today

Got a model number for that ram?

[19*12 gamer]

yep, but I could not find it on Corsair's site, so i called the store to ask what voltage was stated on the dimms themself and it said 1.8v.
Part number: xms2-8500 or TWIN2X4096-8500c5 i guess.
http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/Co...R2/198643.aspx

They are the 4th in this list of test rapports from ASUS:
http://www.corsair.com/testreports/r...tner_id=238134

seems they hit 555-18@1.8v and 555-15 @2.1...
Thats good enough to me but not realy fair to state what the store was stating about this ram.

The picture is wrong on mycom website, they are the modules with xms2 on it, not dominator dimms.

Maybe the tested at 1600Mhz stable is wrong information from the store, but the most important thing to me was that they were running on 1066Mhz and needed 1.8V for it. I wont go over 1200Mhz anyway.

[Machine#17]

Can someone please help me?
I am at 3.4 with a e6600(planing to upgrade to a qx9550 sometime in the near future) and i have hit a wall and cant get it to be stable after this.
My bios settings are as follows:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 850
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : disabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store:
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today

I do believe you mean 1600 Rated FSB not 1600MHz, I would think Corsair would be the only ram company in business if that were true

[RCG_Bex]

RAM is set @ 2.3v with a corsair RAM cooler modded with San Aces

Pushed it higher but no screenshots of ity atm. Just killed my windows install trying to get 435 x 10 to boot again

~Bex

[19*12 gamer]

The 1600Mhz was a error on the website of the seller,
my ram is Corsair twin2xcms2-8500c5 and runs 55515@2.1v and 55518@1.8v both @1066Mhz. runs stable around 1200 so that should not be the problem.

Weird thing is: I can POST up to 572*7 but i cant get 500*7 stable in windows. (orthos, small)

I got to 572 by using settings that Zucker2 here post #3.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...hlight=barrier

I had to change RAM to 55518 1.8v to boot, but that crashed starting windows.

I think i should be able to get to +-4.6 stable as my bios is stable on 4.55Ghz on 1.3V. I just dont know which settings to change/raise.

Please help

p.s will flashing maximus to rampage improve max OC/FSB?

[les_paulde]

yep, but I could not find it on Corsair's site, so i called the store to ask what voltage was stated on the dimms themself and it said 1.8v.
Part number: xms2-8500 or TWIN2X4096-8500c5 i guess.
http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/Co...R2/198643.aspx

They are the 4th in this list of test rapports from ASUS:
http://www.corsair.com/testreports/r...tner_id=238134

seems they hit 555-18@1.8v and 555-15 @2.1...
Thats good enough to me but not realy fair to state what the store was stating about this ram.

The picture is wrong on mycom website, they are the modules with xms2 on it, not dominator dimms.

Maybe the tested at 1600Mhz stable is wrong information from the store, but the most important thing to me was that they were running on 1066Mhz and needed 1.8V for it. I wont go over 1200Mhz anyway.

Since I speak dutch I think i can clear this up for you guys. The memory is indeed only 1066mhz ram; it merely states its been fully tested to run on 1600mhz compatible motherboards (like our beloved 'rampages'), not that it runs at 1600mhz... That would be simply amazing and they would never sell it at a store as n00b-like as mycom...

[19*12 gamer]

Okay, is there anyone here that has a E8400 E0 at FSB500+ that is willing to post all (relevant) bios settings? (or changes compared 2 defaults)

I'm really hungry for new things to try as i have the whole weekend to get my system stable on 4.5+Ghz.

I will post all Voltage readings from Bios@7*570 around 19:00, i hope someone knows what i need to change.

And is 1:1 better for MAX OC then 5:6? My system doesnt seem to like 1:1

[askimo]

Okay, is there anyone here that has a E8400 E0 at FSB500+ that is willing to post all (relevant) bios settings? (or changes compared 2 defaults)

I'm really hungry for new things to try as i have the whole weekend to get my system stable on 4.5+Ghz.

I will post all Voltage readings from Bios@7*570 around 19:00, i hope someone knows what i need to change.

And is 1:1 better for MAX OC then 5:6? My system doesnt seem to like 1:1

I will post my setup tonight when I arrive home

[askimo]

Do you guys think that going to 2x2Gb instead of 4x1gb of ram would do any better for overclocking the CPU?

[Grnfinger]

Can someone please help me?
I am at 3.4 with a e6600(planing to upgrade to a qx9550 sometime in the near future) and i have hit a wall and cant get it to be stable after this.

You need 1.4+ volts for 3.4GHz?
I think your chip will not scale very well and you might be at its limit
Anyways you have to much set to auto
I can post a nice 3.6GHz template but it was done with a quad core.
I'm sure you can adapt the settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Machine#17]

OK thank you for your response.

[Hockster]

What would be a good NB voltage, I'm running 8GB of Mushkin XP2-6400 at 4-4-4-12 and 2.05 volts.

[19*12 gamer]

@Askimo;
Thanks for your help.
I've read alot about 4x1GB sticks stressing your NB more then 2x2GB, making it more unstable at high oc, but thats all i know. (i just got 2x2GB for that reason)

Im tweaking for weeks now and new ram xms2-8500c5 is running 1.8v@1080 55518 and cpu- and NBtemps are always lower then 42 degrees load so i must get 4.5+Ghz stable imo.
Having my bios stable @7*572 and not getting 7*470 stress-stable is not very cool

@Hockster; 1.65 works for me i run 2x2gb 1080 2.1v 55515.

[19*12 gamer]

I got my BIOS stable @ 8*500 but booting vista gives th error message:
"image corrupt, cannot boot system"
(9*460 is stressing stable@1.304Volt idle and load)

My settings are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1142
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS: 1.35v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 65 // 1.648v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.304v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50 // 1.408v (vdroop?)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration = everything disabled, multi =8

What might be the problem? Temps are always under 42 degrees C.