Bitspower Fittings and Swiftech GTZ

[gmod]

Is there any problems with the 1/2x3/4 BP comp. Fittings. Do they seal fully on the blk without any problems or mods..I have noticed the swifty logo needs to be removed..

[BP-Vincent]

Is there any problems with the 1/2x3/4 BP comp. Fittings. Do they seal fully on the blk without any problems or mods..I have noticed the swifty logo needs to be removed..

Please use the ST transfer Adapter and then you will have perfect seal.

Due to all of our fittings are all hidden O-Ring design.

[gmod]

Please use the ST transfer Adapter and then you will have perfect seal.

Due to all of our fittings are all hidden O-Ring design.

could you give me a link to where i can get those. Want to make sure i get the right ones..And what about the EK 4870x2 full cover blks. Anything i need for those

[Scubar]

Apparently if you put another O-Ring over the thread they should work ok.

[Sparky]

Apparently if you put another O-Ring over the thread they should work ok.

The thing that bothers me about that is O rings tend not to seal well against a second O ring. I mean look at a car's oil filter, if you accidentally double up the O ring there (old oil filter's O ring sticks to the engine block) then you have an almost guaranteed leak. Plus, you reduce how many threads are actually threaded in.

I'd personally play it safe and just use the adapters that Vincent suggested. Should be no issues at all then.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

are BP barbs (not compression) ok to use on the MCW-30 without the ST adapter???

[CyberDruid]

If it is a captive O-ring type barb you will need either a spacer or another O-ring.

[rehpyc]

Is this issue only with Swiftech blocks, or is it something that is a problem with say D-Tek blocks as well?

[BP-Vincent]

are BP barbs (not compression) ok to use on the MCW-30 without the ST adapter???

We prefer you add one ST Adapter for perfect seal...

This was designed for Swiftech's issue only..

Is this issue only with Swiftech blocks, or is it something that is a problem with say D-Tek blocks as well?

Sure..now if there are the same design with swiftech...please sure you are using correct our components for WC.

[Boyu]

how about using BP compresion Fitting 3/4 OD on the side of EK RES?, what adapter do you recomended

[_G_]

We prefer you add one ST Adapter for perfect seal...

This was designed for Swiftech's issue only..



Sure..now if there are the same design with swiftech...please sure you are using correct our components for WC.

these?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23836

[DeathWalking]

Yes.

[Martinm210]

Here are some pics that I posted on another thread this weekend...

BP Compression (1/2" x 3/4") + BP ST Transfer Fitting

ENJOY ...

Yes, this is the way to do it right. The o-ring trick may work, but it doesn't leave a whole lot of threading in there. This adapter is fairly long with lots of threads, so you'd get really good strength, not to mention the exact threading.

[rehpyc]

If only other stores could provide these adapters among their BP products in stock.. performance-pcs charges an arm and a leg for shipping

[Herc130]

Can try carefully filing down the lip that surrounds the o-ring. Personally, an adapter on a fitting is just too much going on, I'd find a different solution. Luckily, I am not a fan of the compression fitting

[Martinm210]

I can get about 1-3/4 turns using the o-ring idea. I wouldn't do that if both o-rings weren't retained, but with the way the GTZ is, the extra o-ring is retained by the block and the fitting o-ring is retained by the barb, so I think it seals ok. It's only holding on by just under 1-3/4 threads, so the transfer fittings would be the better way to go though.

[Waterlogged]

I can get about 1-3/4 turns using the o-ring idea. I wouldn't do that if both o-rings weren't retained, but with the way the GTZ is, the extra o-ring is retained by the block and the fitting o-ring is retained by the barb, so I think it seals ok. It's only holding on by just under 1-3/4 threads, so the transfer fittings would be the better way to go though.

Whoa, wait just a minute here! I thought the GTZ had G1/4" threads?

[CrixD]

Whoa, wait just a minute here! I thought the GTZ had G1/4" threads?

it haves, but to use a bitspower fitting you need to use a extender, else you need to remove the sticker and maybe void the garantee

[Waterlogged]

it haves, but to use a bitspower fitting you need to use a extender, else you need to remove the sticker and maybe void the garantee

The problem there is, the BP ST transfer fitting has NPSM male thread which are longer than most fittings have. This will cause the mis-alignment between the 18 TPI of the NPSM and the 19 TPI of the BSPP (G).

[CrixD]

The problem there is, the BP ST transfer fitting has NPSM male thread which are longer than most fittings have. This will cause the mis-alignment between the 18 TPI of the NPSM and the 19 TPI of the BSPP (G).

ahhh... I can see that :p Sorry ;p

[Waterlogged]

ahhh... I can see that :p Sorry ;p

NP at all.

[Scubar]

Well thats put a dent in my plans. I was hoping to use the GTZ with the BP Compression fittings. However i cant seem to get that adaptor in the UK.

The problem there is, the BP ST transfer fitting has NPSM male thread which are longer than most fittings have. This will cause the mis-alignment between the 18 TPI of the NPSM and the 19 TPI of the BSPP (G).

So are you saying that the adaptors arent going to work properly anyway then ?

[Martinm210]

The problem there is, the BP ST transfer fitting has NPSM male thread which are longer than most fittings have. This will cause the mis-alignment between the 18 TPI of the NPSM and the 19 TPI of the BSPP (G).

Good catch, I don't have any of those transfer fittings, but if I try to feed a plastic swiftech barb down in there it does seem to bind up pretty quick.

[Kibbler]

So, ideally we would need a G1/4 extender (NOT the BP bpsm-bspp thread adapter) with NO recessed o-ring, correct? I don't think something like that exists.

Koolance has the only G1/4 extender I know of and they have recessed o-rings.

You could use a DD male-to-male fitting, those have exposed o-rings, coupled together with a BP female-female coupler. But that's gonna look tremendously...ugly.

Weird why Swiftech designed their newest block with a built-in recess when most other blocks have a flat face.

[Waterlogged]

Well thats put a dent in my plans. I was hoping to use the GTZ with the BP Compression fittings. However i cant seem to get that adaptor in the UK.



So are you saying that the adaptors arent going to work properly anyway then ?

Well, IIRC, I've been seeing two ways that ppl have been getting BP comps on this block.

1. Pop off the little Swiftech badge so the fittings seat properly

2. Double up on the O-ring as per Martin's site:

And by popular demand, yes the Apogee GTZ will fit compression fitting with a small trick. Because the top has recess barb slots for o-rings, you need to grab an extra o-ring from another unused barb and slip it over the comrpession fitting threads. Othewise the compression fittings will sit too low and impact the swiftech logo. Not a big deal though, just slip them over and tighten the whole thing down.