AMD X2 6500+ coming

[Mechromancer]

Not much to see here, and no reason to grab one of the last 65 nm CPU's now.
Sure, some people want AMD, but if you haven't already got a K10 then you might as well wait for 45 nm.

Dude, we wont see Deneb until 2009. I'm building a 6500BE rig in the meantime. This old opteron 185 rig needs to be retired.

[Mats]

Dude, we wont see Deneb until 2009. I'm building a 6500+ rig in the meantime.

I know, but that's not really far away.

[Glow9]

You know AM2+ has been out for a while now I don't know why some people are bashing this chip especially when it gives people who have stuck with their mobos a fairly decent upgrade. I don't think AMD is bragging about this chip or making a big fuss so I don't see why theres a big deal over it?

[Macadamia]

You know AM2+ has been out for a while now I don't know why some people are bashing this chip especially when it gives people who have stuck with their mobos a fairly decent upgrade. I don't think AMD is bragging about this chip or making a big fuss so I don't see why theres a big deal over it?

People who bash AMD without even reading the fine print will always...


Bash AMD without reading the fine print.

[STaRGaZeR]

Dude, we wont see Deneb until 2009. I'm building a 6500+ rig in the meantime. This old opteron 185 rig needs to be retired.

6500+? That does not exist

[KoHaN69]

So when is AMD gonna release a dual-c0re chip that does 3.5 on air?

[stangracin2]

its called the 6400 BE tard

[justthefax]

Look at the rest then. At 2.3Ghz Quadcore the TDP rating is what?

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E15347,00.html

But again, Nice PR stunt to cheat customers. 6500 rating...5000 performance.

Have you considered that the 6500 is the model name, like 9500 or 8750. "Nice PR stunt to cheat customers". What a sad little Intel shill you are

[LightSpeed]

i dont understand, if this chip overclocks to around 3.3 on air (or more im sure, with some tweaking), it will beat the snot out of any athlon 64 X2 there is.

end result: good for us overclockers, bad for the consumers (a 2.8-2.9ghz k8 performance is not too shabby though)

[JumpingJack]

i dont understand, if this chip overclocks to around 3.3 on air (or more im sure, with some tweaking), it will beat the snot out of any athlon 64 X2 there is.

end result: good for us overclockers, bad for the consumers (a 2.8-2.9ghz k8 performance is not too shabby though)

Shintai's point is that AMD enumerates their processors with 4 digit PR numbers (they have long since lost their 'Intel equivalent GHz performance' meaning even when pitted against the P4s).

People have become accustomed to the higher the PR number the higher the performance. The 6500 designation would imply to the less knowledgeable that it is AMD's highest performing dual core... when, in fact, it is not.

Same thing with naming the 9600, 9850, 9950 to an extent, playing against Intel's numbering scheme -- less knowledgeable people may think that the 9600 is almost as fast as a QX9650, and that the 9850 and 9950 are faster.

[LightSpeed]

People have become accustomed to the higher the PR number the higher the performance. The 6500 designation would imply to the less knowledgeable that it is AMD's highest performing dual core... when, in fact, it is not.

I completely agree, it is misleading to the general consumers, but for overclockers it is their highest performing dual core. hence i said its good for overclockers, and bad for the consumers

[Macadamia]

I completely agree, it is misleading to the general consumers, but for overclockers it is their highest performing dual core. hence i said its good for overclockers, and bad for the consumers

Black Editions are only sold in channel (NO OEM), and particularly for enthusiasts and overclockers who obviously do that.

The clock rate should be 100-200Mhz more for the price, but I'm not complaining. If Deneb suddenly sucks I might get this and run with it.

[LightSpeed]

finally im sure we'l be seeing +1000mhz overclocks on average with these chips

some acc loving coming up...

i hope these are cheap in the UK

[dexman]

^^the thing is there is no cheap board with S750 and people who want to upgrade usually have older mobos. still it should oc pretty good since the open multiplier.

[Macadamia]

^^the thing is there is no cheap board with S750 and people who want to upgrade usually have older mobos. still it should oc pretty good since the open multiplier.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128

[Hornet331]

^^the thing is there is no cheap board with S750 and people who want to upgrade usually have older mobos. still it should oc pretty good since the open multiplier.

Quite ironic, isn't it?

Amd fans braged how cheap there boards where compared to intels one, now you pay for a 790FX-GX/SB750 the same as for a X48/ICH9R.

[bedlamite]

This Biostar mobo looks interesting

[Macadamia]

Quite ironic, isn't it?

Amd fans braged how cheap there boards where compared to intels one, now you pay for a 790FX-GX/SB750 the same as for a X48/ICH9R.

In your bizzaro justification world, perhaps.

[ubuntu83]

Quite ironic, isn't it?

Amd fans braged how cheap there boards where compared to intels one, now you pay for a 790FX-GX/SB750 the same as for a X48/ICH9R.

790FX-GX+SB750 price = x48+ICH9R? have you got a proof.

The Dually's name should have been Phenom X2 7650. Other than that it's fine, but I guess AMD don't want to get rid of their beloved Athlon brand.

[Power5]

If you take away the $100 higher price tag, the cheapest x48 on newegg is the same price as the cheapest 750SB amd board.

[Mechromancer]

If you take away the $100 higher price tag, the cheapest x48 on newegg is the same price as the cheapest 750SB amd board.

+1

X48 board pricing is ridiculous.

[Hornet331]

In your bizzaro justification world, perhaps.

no its called europa.

790FX/GX + SB750 80-225€
http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=mbamd2p;a...=on;v=e&sort=p

X48 - ICH9R DDR2 150-225€
http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=mbp4_775_...317_X48&sort=p

X48 - ICH9R DDR3 125-300€
http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=mbp4_775_...317_X48&sort=p

times of super cheap Amd boards are gone.

[Macadamia]

Whatever you're smoking, I'd like it. Delusional...

Remove that ASRock even your mom wouldn't buy (probably won't OC too), and X48 is baseline 150 Euro.

The only 2 boards exceeding 150 Euro are niche 790FX designs with 3x PCIe. 790GXes are all cheaper than X48s.


But don't worry, it's already concluded that Spintel enthusiasts will even be willingly raped for the next generation of motherboards- X58- that ironically has even less crucial silicon than ever, and yet going to be even more expensive, especially after the SLI tax.

[STaRGaZeR]

no its cald europa.

Haha, it's always the same. Some guys think NewEgg and the US are the only place where mobos, CPUs and such are sold. Bizzaro world...

The only 2 boards exceeding 150 Euro are niche 790FX designs with 3x PCIe. [B]790GXes are all cheaper than X48s.[/B

Dude, while the majority of 790FX are cheaper, that doesn't change the fact that AMD boards are no longer much cheaper than Intel's like they were before. As Hornet says, the days of cheap high-end AMD motherboards are gone.

[leoy]

In greece they are way cheaper...
790gx = 120-130 euro( asus for example)
790fx = 170 (asus again)