Nvidia 9800Gx2 Club!

[Kondik]

didn;t got single one crash with RT 2.09 on Vista x64 , worked with 175.16 , 177.83;89 and now 92 beta series, works great for me [ GTX 280 user here ]

[Rattle]

i have used the 79's, 83's and now the new 92's without issue, i havnt used the 16's though hehe

[nickless]

does any1 seem to be getting bsod/freezing with the 177.79 177.83 and the new 177.92 beta`s. 175.16 are the only drivers that give me no problems and ive read that overclocking your card could be the cause. If this is true are nvidia trying to stop us from overclocking? Like i say 175.16 no problems with oc or in general but anything else then BAM bsod or you freezing.I am now running at stock to see if the problem goes away but im not gonna hold my breath...

I also have problems with every driver after 177.73. With 177.73 I can bench Vantage on 800/2000/1180, but with next drivers it's impossible. I always receive this stupid error:"Display Driver nvlddmkm stopped responding, has successfully recovered" even I reduce the OC, also this f****** error in Vantage with 177.79 and 177.83


With Crysis benchmark is the same.
For me the most stable driver for now is 177.73, without errors and freezing.

[Kondik]

PhysX dll error is not nvidia driver problem but PhysX , system problem, probably cuda. But I hadn't had a single application crash since februrary when my PC BSODed thanks to creative x64 4GB RAM + issue. Maybe it's just luck , maybe something else

[wilson]

Im gonna try vista x64 cos i think it could just be xp x64 drivers, well thats what i hope.

[nickless]

Im gonna try vista x64 cos i think it could just be xp x64 drivers, well thats what i hope.

I'm with Vista Ultimate x64 SP1, but I hope you will be lucky!

PhysX dll error is not nvidia driver problem but PhysX , system problem, probably cuda. But I hadn't had a single application crash since februrary when my PC BSODed thanks to creative x64 4GB RAM + issue. Maybe it's just luck , maybe something else

I think this is driver problem, because I haven't this error with 177.73 + PhysX 8.07.18, 177.73 + 8.08.01 or 177.73 +8.08.18, but when I use drivers above this one I have errors and crashes
But who knows?!

[nflesher87]

hey all I'm attempting to set up the 9800GX2 I just got in for SLI, and I have an 8600GTS 512mb along with it for physx
my main objective is to have all three gpus folding, but first I can't even get SLI enabled, not to mention assigning the 8600 for physx (if that's even necessary?)
from what I've found I need to find the option for SLI in the nvidia control panel but it's not there, and GPU-z says SLI is disabled

any help plz?

btw: Forcware 177.83 Vista 64-bit

[426hemi]

In my nvidia cp under 3d settings is set multi gpu configuration the two choices are multi display or multi gpu. pick multi gpu for sli on your X2.

[nflesher87]

In my nvidia cp under 3d settings is set multi gpu configuration the two choices are multi display or multi gpu. pick multi gpu for sli on your X2.

thanks for the reply, and btw just noticed you live in Pitt, I live in Bethel Park

Ok so I managed to figure out the SLI option issue, it was due to having the 8600 in, so I disabled the 8600 via Device Manager and the option appears in NV CP, however there is still no performance difference, implying SLI is not truly enabling
I tried each SLI rendering mode and each results in the same perf. as single GPU
I'm going to check if there's a newer Beta driver that'll give me some more luck
(also I suspect that if I physically remove the 8600, as opposed to simply disabling it, I'll get some SLI success)

any more advice anyone?

[426hemi]

hmmm.............. I would like to know what you find out because I was going to put my 8800gts 512 in this weekend for physx........ maybe this won't work.... Go Steelers!!!!!

[nflesher87]

hmmm.............. I would like to know what you find out because I was going to put my 8800gts 512 in this weekend for physx........ maybe this won't work.... Go Steelers!!!!!

haha yeah for sure always good to know there's some fellow enthusiasts around here

Ok so I pulled out the 8600 and reinstalled drivers, tried the 177.92 this time and SLI is at least working, not I suppose I'll attmept just popping the 8600 in, though I don't know that it'll be able to run from the existing driver installation...

I should note that my final and real intent with this is to have all 3 cores folding 24/7

[systemviper]

Small world, i have relatives in Pitt and Hazelton, plus somewhere way out in the PA countrySide, the only thing you can see is deer and some big nuclear power plant, it's kind of sureal.

[rickvtv6]

hey every1 im from Australia and was wondering if anyone might be able to help with my current oc project.

E8400 (4050mhz) @1.4875v (still optimizing clock speed, doesn't like 64bit at 4.2 but does with 32bit???)
xfx 790i Ultra pcie x16 clocks @120mhz, P06 bios (rids of the nvidia and xfx bios confusion, strait xfx bios over-write)
2x2gb super talent project X 1800 888-24 1.925v wont support duel channel on the xfx (work that 1 out)
x2 leadtech 9800gx2 quad sli config (cc750sc1800mc1100) fans 100% 24/7 177.92 with physx
xfi platinum
seagate 40NS 1TB server hdd
zalman 850w psu
coolermaster centurion
vista ult 64bit sp1
3dmark06
rivatuner2.10

ok with all that in mind i realize the bottleneck issue with the e84 cpu, i hope to invest in a qx9770 eventually as this was my gaming rig (didn't know about the gtx280 at the time :-( ) and the issue with vid ram being shared with the system ram issue is why i moved to 64bit and whacked the page file to 8gb. my issue is i cannot seem to break the 19000 3dmark line, yet i looked at the ati series and they left the 98gx2 for dead, at the time everyone told me nvidia develop better cards and have always been a personal preference but this i thought (with this amount of money and research done) was rather disappointing?

my ddr3 is running at 1800mhz, should i consider decreasing the speed to make the timings faster or stick with 888-24 with the higher freq?

any suggestions as to how i can optimize my system for some descent scores as i am running short of ideas?

also im a bit of a crysis fan, i can run the game with all settings on very high but if i enable AA the game pretty much becomes unplayable, does anyone else experience this with quad sli??

thanks heaps in advance.
Rick.

[nflesher87]

Small world, i have relatives in Pitt and Hazelton, plus somewhere way out in the PA countrySide, the only thing you can see is deer and some big nuclear power plant, it's kind of sureal.

hey SV, seems you're on all the forums too aren't you?

hey every1 im from Australia and was wondering if anyone might be able to help with my current oc project.

E8400 (4050mhz) @1.4875v (still optimizing clock speed, doesn't like 64bit at 4.2 but does with 32bit???)
xfx 790i Ultra pcie x16 clocks @120mhz, P06 bios (rids of the nvidia and xfx bios confusion, strait xfx bios over-write)
2x2gb super talent project X 1800 888-24 1.925v wont support duel channel on the xfx (work that 1 out)
x2 leadtech 9800gx2 quad sli config (cc750sc1800mc1100) fans 100% 24/7 177.92 with physx
xfi platinum
seagate 40NS 1TB server hdd
zalman 850w psu
coolermaster centurion
vista ult 64bit sp1
3dmark06
rivatuner2.10

ok with all that in mind i realize the bottleneck issue with the e84 cpu, i hope to invest in a qx9770 eventually as this was my gaming rig (didn't know about the gtx280 at the time :-( ) and the issue with vid ram being shared with the system ram issue is why i moved to 64bit and whacked the page file to 8gb. my issue is i cannot seem to break the 19000 3dmark line, yet i looked at the ati series and they left the 98gx2 for dead, at the time everyone told me nvidia develop better cards and have always been a personal preference but this i thought (with this amount of money and research done) was rather disappointing?

my ddr3 is running at 1800mhz, should i consider decreasing the speed to make the timings faster or stick with 888-24 with the higher freq?

any suggestions as to how i can optimize my system for some descent scores as i am running short of ideas?

also im a bit of a crysis fan, i can run the game with all settings on very high but if i enable AA the game pretty much becomes unplayable, does anyone else experience this with quad sli??

thanks heaps in advance.
Rick.

Hey bro, I'm a bit curious about this sub 19k 3DM06 score...would you please give us more detail about that? What is each subscore you're getting?

Also about you're possible mistake in choosing video cards, I have no doubt that even at 4GHz your cpu is limiting quad SLI, also, currently one GX2 still outperforms a single GTX280 in almost all cases (as long as SLI scales well enough which it almost always does well enough for the GX2) however, once you jump to two GX2s vs two GTX280s you're usually going to be better off with the 280s as you're then needing to depend on SLI scaling so well that it can fully utilize 4 GPUs as opposed to using 2 stronger ones
Ideally you should go with 3 GTX280s in Tri-SLI

Also if it helps at all, I have a QX9770 for sale We could talk about shipping to AUS!

[rickvtv6]

Hey nflesher87,
thanx for the quick reply, it usually gets 18,3xx to 18,8xx. personally i was expecting over 20xxx, i have never tried it under xp OS though and apparently higher scores are achieved, but i was using duel os but never used xp so i just redone it with vista ult 64. im trying some dff voltage settings and nvidia settings atm so i will c if i have had any success (cross fingers). as for the tri sli i thought about that after i got the 98s and was kicking myself, but then i would have had to get the new xfi pcie edition as i already had the platinum as your only left with 1 pcie slot after the tri setup (that would be insanely awesome tho).

what would be your asking price of the qx9770?

cheers,
Rick.

[systemviper]

I have an overclocked 8500 and got over 20k with my 9800GX2, i am looking forward to rebenching it with the rampage, some dominator 10000 and a QX6850, i should start that next week, here is my results from the 20k...

20K

[rickvtv6]

4.5ghz would be the reason i would say plus those real nice mem timings youve got in the description! what cooling and vcore were you using at the time? your nxt bench should be something well worth a look at too

[systemviper]

I ran it all on water, and the next one will be water too, I should get 2000 more points from the cpu alone... but that doesn't =2000 more points in 06. But the 9800GX2 is a fun card, or should i say 2 cards.

[rickvtv6]

should be interesting, do you adjust any setting in the nvidia control panel at all? or rivatuner? i did have water cooling, i had it set up perfectly for 2 weeks and then the cpu block leaked, luckily i claimed it all on insurance so i rebuilt it to this day. but i never saw a huge decrese in temps with it, i always sand back the cpu face, that alone i have always found to be the biggest helper then some as5 and a good fancy copper heatsync. but i deff wouldnt go back to water, only due to my terrifying experience with it. i would love to get a phase change system setup though. -30 sound cool!

[systemviper]

should be interesting, do you adjust any setting in the nvidia control panel at all? or rivatuner? i did have water cooling, i had it set up perfectly for 2 weeks and then the cpu block leaked, luckily i claimed it all on insurance so i rebuilt it to this day. but i never saw a huge decrese in temps with it, i always sand back the cpu face, that alone i have always found to be the biggest helper then some as5 and a good fancy copper heatsync. but i deff wouldnt go back to water, only due to my terrifying experience with it. i would love to get a phase change system setup though. -30 sound cool!

Actually it was done over the course of an hour, in a race with a friend 2 get to 20k, we both got our cards the same day. But I used the nvidia forceware tuner, I only needed to get to 20k so i hit the processor more then the card. That is why i want to go back with a quad, i get a bump from using a quad and i know i had overhead on the card settings, plus i got killer ram and a grea overclocking motherboard, so this time i am going to take my time and do some real benches and really try to understand what i am doing. I also have a GTX280sc an a 4870X2 that I will put in the system once i feel i have reached max clocks on the ram and cpu. So it ill be an interesting comparison.

I have used water for a while, yep yep, it is very tough to get it right, and you need to get a feel for how it is working and then keep monitoring it, but i like it for stability of tempature,. I find that when i am overclocking with air, i start to hit a wall of heat at some point, witGPU's and CPU's. Plus i love the quads which is more heat.
I might even get a E8600 just to try for the 5ghz club.

Someday i hope to step up to phase, dice or ln2 but that is when i hv lot more spare time and money....

[nflesher87]

I wouldn't recommend going with any cooling that's sub 0C unless you're will to deal with all of the gunky and messy insulating involved (condensation will build up and freeze on the components) I'd def recommend give water another try, you just really have to make sure all your seals are good! Also go with straight distilled water and you basically don't have to worry about a leak anyway as it's not conductive! So in the off chance that you have a leak, no big deal, clean up and try again

As for your GX2s, as far as I know XP can't utilize more than 3 gpus at a time, though I'd need confirmation of that, but other than that I do know that xp generally yields higher 3DM06 scores than vista, my Q9650 at 3.9 and one GX2 scores well over 20k (and the Q9650 is at it's 24/7 clock) on vista 64bit

as for my QX9770, it's an ES and I have it posted for $850 USD shipped, though I might need you to cover shipping since it'd be to aussie, and as well I'd need a guaranteed form of payment, like a mailed MO or something like a wire transfer, but I guarantee you'd have no trouble with me, I have over 90 all positive heat and am on the staff over at techpowerup.com as well as being a respected member on other forums such as [H] and AT, just getting started here at XS

as I'd like to mention, I thoroughly disapprove of lapping your CPU unless a) it already has no warranty or b) you're using extreme cooling such as LN2 as the degree or two lower temps simply aren't worth having no warranty, not to mention how much you depreciate the value of resale!

[systemviper]

I can vouch for nflesher87, very stand up guy and good friend, he will do what it takes to make sure your deal goes smooth. I also tried TEC cooling for while and had to use all that gunk for condensation, That is probably the main reason i don't use any other cooling other then air and water, man it just gets messy. But to each his own, and the upside of the mess is Xtreme temps and Xtreme clocks/scores. So someday I will hit it again...

It will prob be LN2 just because that is how the Exp-erts do it....
Wheni want ot be the best, i just watch the experts.....
Go Kingpin, GO Fugger, he's rocking a contest as we speak....
Go XS all the way!

[TheGanG]

I have an EVGA 9800GX2 SC since released, works pretty good for me. Clock it up to 774/1152 Fan: %75, without having high temperatures or noise problems.

Currently looking for a good water cooling block to have some fun! Cuz blowing hot air in to the case makes me nervy.

It was on an EVGA 780i A1 SLi/E8500, now on a BlackOps/E8600 with no issues... I believe GX2s have a great performance with QX CPUs Watered 4,6 GHz QX9770 gives me a 23K-3DMark 06, LN2ed 5.8GHz E8600 gives 24K7-3DMark 06, 35K7-3DMark 05 and 111K7-3DMark 01...


E8600/Air (Hot!)
BlackOps/NB Watered
EVGA 9800GX2 SC/Stock Fan
Latest Drivers

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9413401
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7973217
(SM 2.0 Score 9955 SM 3.0 Score 11092 CPU Score 4525 )

3DMark 01: 96006


3DMark 06: 21946

[nflesher87]

thanks for the props SV, I'm still waiting to see some nice benchies with the 4870X2 I sold you!
as for GansG nice OC on air with that e8600!
I'm just a quad core junkie, I've actually yet to use even one 45nm C2D yet I've used almost every single 65nm and 45nm enthusiast C2Q/X, and in many cases multiple of each

[rickvtv6]

i dont doubt your trust, atm i am trying to save for one, as the reason for lapping, i purchase most parts from ebay (with research of course) as it is soo much cheaper than buying it here so there is no warranty plus i dont ever plan on reselling the cpu if i did it would be a complete box.

lol now u guys got me thinkin bout water cooling again, i didnt know about the distilled water not being conductive, if i knew that i wouldnt have screwed 1400aud worth of gear then again i wouldnt have what i got now either. i was using 2 pumps, 1 on either end of the radiator (an automatic transmission oil cooler radiator about the size of a cdrom drive, brand new of course) but i would probably just use the single cpu block, the 98gx2's i find are at a good clock and arent over heating to go out and spend big bucks on those water blocks. i done a fair bit of research and planning before i setup the water cooling i had, so if i set it up again with a pump on either end of the radiator does that sound ok just for a cpu block and a Y peice for bleeding/refilling (no reservoir)?

as for the E8600, my 8400 works great, best i got was 4.2 on air but since i done a bios update and vista 64 i cant get it stable past 4.05 for some unknown reason (not too fussed anymore) but one day i hope to get that qx 45nm beast.

ok i finally got it to complete 3dmark06 again, 18856
sm2.0 8241
sm3.0 10497
cpu 3584

thanx again u guys are great help!