The Banana Collector 2: The Point of No Return

[BenchZowner]

Hello guys, how are you doing ?
-Damn, it's him again!

It's been quite a long time since my last LN2 benching session right ?
Today I found some free time and decided to test some more E8600's ( Q822A's ) on my... not so trusty Asus P5E64 WS Evolution motherboard.

Like the movies, the sequels are worst than the first movie ( in most cases ) and usually the movies end with a bad third part ( coming soon ? More than likely ).

I showed you my first few sucky E8600's here ( The Banana Collector )

Today's the big day... I'm here to give you the sequel:

The Banana Collector 2: The Point of No Return

I tested 3 E8600's ( Q822A45x batch ).
The first sucked...really... is 5.6GHz max benchable Pi 1M at 1.85V a good result ? I don't think so.
The second one sucked as well. Max stable 5.7GHz ( 1.926V ) ( SuperPi 32M, wPrime 1024m, 3D Marks, etc ), and max SuperPi 1M @ 5.89GHz at 2.04V!
The third one... guess what:
It sucked as well! Ha ha ha
Cold-bug at -159C, Cold-Boot at -122C
Max Stable = 5.8GHz ( 1.978V )
Max SuperPi 1M @ 5.99GHz ( 2.113V )

I also "lost" my best GTX 280 that gave me artifacts for no apparent reason
That card rocked
Max benchable on air 771MHz/1566MHz/GDDR3-2808(artifact-free) on stock cooler & stock voltages

I've got some E8600's to test next week... they better give me one good chip this time 'cause I'm about to f* quit this "sport" now.

[TheKarmakazi]

Sorry to hear more bad news BZ... Im sure this next batch will have a winner!

Did you get any results from these runs?

[BenchZowner]

Nothing special... some typical 32M runs ( 8min 2x secs ), and some soft 3D ( aquamark 3 @ 34x.000 ) due to low VGA clocks ( 710/1512/1250 ), and no tweaking ( was frustrated enough... I caught myself spraying LN2 all around the room ).

[Solarfall]

omg you have the worst luck with those E8600 chips.. i hope the next chip you get is better than what you have got now

[Viss]

That many chips with them results is almost beyond bad luck, Evo perhaps ?

[TheKarmakazi]

That many chips with them results is almost beyond bad luck, Evo perhaps ?

I was kinda thinking the same thing myself... you try them on any other board BZ?

[Achill3uS]

sad to read about this Bill, but dont give up, many times ocing is about luck, to get a gem cpu,mobo,ram ect, but your skills are well known, everybody knows that you are able to do some high scores if you will got finally a good chip, so lets make a 8600 WANTED FOR BILL thread and wait for somebody to help you... sadly i cant, i also have an avarage chip, 6G 3D on ln2 or so, but if you want it just let me know
anyway, keep handpicking it

[yankee]

Sorry to hear about your bad luck, BZ. Count your blessings, though, some of us have neither an E8600 nor LN2 to play with. Keep on truckin, man!

[Achill3uS]

That many chips with them results is almost beyond bad luck, Evo perhaps ?

i tested EVO with 8600 all over this weekend, it clocks really nice with, but you have to find the good bios options and voltages, this mobo is not RE

if i can help with, my settings & air results: EVO+86

[knopflerbruce]

If I were you I'd buy a Biostar mobo (or something else that's good and not too expensive) so you can check if it's the board or something. Pretty insane if all those chips are actually that bad

Try to buy some pre-tested chips off ebay or something.

[BenchZowner]

omg you have the worst luck with those E8600 chips.. i hope the next chip you get is better than what you have got now

Some E8600's... you can call it tough luck.
But with the recent history... QX9650s/QX9770s, E8500s, E8600s... that's bad luck.
There are two types of luck... "bad luck" and "bad karma".
I've got both of them

That many chips with them results is almost beyond bad luck, Evo perhaps ?

Tried them on other boards on air, but the max stable FSBs on air weren't good enough to make me insulate those mobos for LN2 ( ~600MHz on the P5Q3 Deluxe, 580MHz on the P5K3 Deluxe, 560MHz on the GA-EP45-DS5, 585MHz on the Striker II Extreme ).

I was kinda thinking the same thing myself... you try them on any other board BZ?

Check above.

sad to read about this Bill, but dont give up, many times ocing is about luck, to get a gem cpu,mobo,ram ect, but your skills are well known, everybody knows that you are able to do some high scores if you will got finally a good chip, so lets make a 8600 WANTED FOR BILL thread and wait for somebody to help you... sadly i cant, i also have an avarage chip, 6G 3D on ln2 or so, but if you want it just let me know
anyway, keep handpicking it

With my luck... I could visit one of Intel's fabs, pick up 100 E8600s and still get away without a single good chip ( even a 6GHz Pi32M & 3D chip would satisfy my "needs" now, but even that looks so far away )

Sorry to hear about your bad luck, BZ. Count your blessings, though, some of us have neither an E8600 nor LN2 to play with. Keep on truckin, man!

I'd rather erase my memory and forget everything about overclocking, etc, than having the opportunity to play with that kind of cooling and crappy hardware.

i tested EVO with 8600 all over this weekend, it clocks really nice with, but you have to find the good bios options and voltages, this mobo is not RE

Yeap, the Evo needs some real tweaking to get the E8xxx's at 600+ FSBs.
I have a paper with my stable FSB settings on air for 580MHz/590MHz/600MHz/610MHz/620MHz for every CPU...
With my luck I just end up using 600MHz / 610MHz FSB with a 9.5x CPU multiplier anyways

If I were you I'd buy a Biostar mobo (or something else that's good and not too expensive) so you can check if it's the board or something.

I might grab a Biostar Tpower next week ( gotta order from another country, can't find the Tpower i45 here lol ).

Pretty insane if all those chips are actually that bad

Trust me, with my luck everything's possible.

Try to buy some pre-tested chips off ebay or something.

I already have a E8600 wanted thread in the Sales section here...
Giving 2000$ for a 6.3GHz 3D chip...

Edit: knopflerbruce... check it out man, your post in this topic was your 666th Coincidence ?

[Zeus]

Man, that really sux! You might want to contact Andre Yang for a nice chip?

[DonBanana]

Someone said Banana

I´m totally with you, BZ. Don´t be too frustrated, sometimes there are good times, and then there are bad times, but then again there are good times (and freaking good hardware)

[CryptiK]

OMG you have the worst luck ever, either that or the people that manage to get hold of 6.2+ GHz benchable 8600's must go through a ridiculous number of them before finding a good one. Keep your head up, and hopefully when you try them on the biostar you find you have a couple of decent ones. It may indeed be the mobo's not handling those clocks, despite the fact you've tested on a couple boards, they have not been consistently proven at high FSB, like the RE & Biostar are.

......
I might grab a Biostar Tpower next week ( gotta order from another country, can't find the Tpower i45 here lol ).

"Hi, I'm looking for a Biostar board"
"Sure, where do we deliver it to?"
"Nowhere"
'Uhhh, we don't deliver there, sorry"
"Dammit"

lol

I hope the 2nd sequel is better than the original and 1st sequels, as I'm sure do you

[TheKarmakazi]

BZ Im going to be selling my Biostar Tpower soon (one last dry ice run to go). Its hit 630fsb with my 8500. Im just going to test my 8600 on it and then get rid of it. Selling my GA-X38-DQ6 too for some cash to buy Rampage Extreme

[Gautam]

Sorry about your luck, Yorkfield was nothing but a curse for me, but Wolfdale lifted that...hopefully you find your cherry soon. But this is the Xtreme Overclocking section so please post some results or I'll have to move this thread out of here.

And as others have said I don't think it's humanly possible to go through that many E8600's and not hit 6, especially since almost all the ones you've talked about are able to reach cold temperatures. I have a P5E64 Evolution and I...don't like it very much...I'll leave it at that. I think that at this point in time you need to get your hands on a guaranteed killer Wolf clocking board, as something besides the CPU's is the issue here. I'd recommend the P5Q3 you have first (the FSB will increase when you go cold), but if that fails something like a Rampage Extreme or DFI P45 might be in order...

I spent months sitting on one chip that did 5970 and another that 6070, and this was back when even 5800 was out of the ordinary. Meanwhile the whole time I thought my luck was horrible as I could never get past 5.6GHz...the problem? The lack of a Rampage Extreme.

[BenchZowner]

I'll give these chips a spin on two new boards ( Rampage Extreme & Biostar Tpower i45 ) soon ( 1-3 weeks ).
I hope it's like your saying... if not... then I guess that's it for me.

[kitfit1]

Never mind BenchZowner, look at it this way, " if it was'nt for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all"

[Dee]

Pfff... you think those are bad? You should try mine. Q820.... AVOID.

[Leeghoofd]

There are two types of luck... "bad luck" and "bad karma".
I've got both of them

At least you look good

[BenchZowner]

Had a chance to test 5 of my E8600s on a LN2 today with a friend's Rampage Extreme... nope, no luck.
They gained some FSB, but the max OCs were about the same ( 2 of them went ~100MHz higher, and the other 3 did about the same as on the Evo )

[thehinge1]

Great, now I have Harry Belafonte jammed in my head: "Hey mister tallyman, tally me banana!"

[BenchZowner]

LOL.

Just tried to do some air-cooled tests on the Striker II Extreme with my newest E8600... max benchable on air ( ThermalRight Ultra-120 Extreme ) is around 4.5GHz... and definitely under 4.65GHz.
Priceless.

[Solarfall]

LOL.

Just tried to do some air-cooled tests on the Striker II Extreme with my newest E8600... max benchable on air ( ThermalRight Ultra-120 Extreme ) is around 4.5GHz... and definitely under 4.65GHz.
Priceless.

what is the patch code of this priceless wonder ??
i've got a #Q820A600 that totally sucks balls the highest possible superpi was around 5.9ghz with my cascade ..thats soo bad when considering that other people have been able to get there chips wayy past 6ghz with same sort of cooling

[BenchZowner]

Q822A438
Best E8600 Banana Award 2008 ®