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  1. #6851
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    I don't know...a quad at 3.8 is going to do you just fine for a long time.

    I would wait, if I were you. $1,000-$1,500 is a lot to pay for 200-400 MHz

    Trust me, I've been through this and now I've learned my lesson (to a certain extent )

    Your system is pretty rockin'...
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    Thanks...

    Mabey I wait a bit more on the new CPU...
    Asus Maximus SE X38 / Lapped Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz (L726B397 stock VID=1.224) / 7 Ultimate x64 /EVGA GTX 295 C=650 S=1512 M=1188 (Graphics)/ EVGA GTX 280 C=756 S=1512 M=1296 (PhysX)/ G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) / Gateway FPD2485W (1920 x 1200 res) / Toughpower 1,000-Watt modular PSU / SilverStone TJ-09 BW / (2) 150 GB Raptor's RAID-0 / (1) Western Digital Caviar 750 GB / LG GGC-H20L (CD, DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay Drive) / WaterKegIII Xtreme / D-TEK FuZion CPU, EVGA Hydro Copper 16 GPU, and EK NB S-MAX Acetal Waterblocks / Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L (South Bridge heat sink)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Thanks...

    Mabey I wait a bit more on the new CPU...
    Save your cash
    I have spent alot lately on 2 E8600's and a Q9550.
    8600 was not much better than my 8400 I sold and 9550 is sweet chip but really it was not worth the 200 bucks for a few hundred mhz.
    upgrading the GPU was my best decision even if it took almost 2 months for me to finally get to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nemesis View Post
    Unless you have a unique board or Q9450, the maximus formula is not a good match for that chip. That is if your after more than 3400MHz prime stable. My board topped out @ 435 bootable. Same chip benchmarks @ 495FSB in a different board. I have a maximus II on the way now. This board is a dream for a QX9650. I bench mine @ 410 x 11 PL5
    Do you still feel the QX chips do better than the Q's in the Maximus Formula?

    Do you think there would be much of a performance increase for me if I am already running a Q6600 @ 3.8GHz?

    I keep going back and forth in my mind, if this would be a good upgrade for me...
    Asus Maximus SE X38 / Lapped Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz (L726B397 stock VID=1.224) / 7 Ultimate x64 /EVGA GTX 295 C=650 S=1512 M=1188 (Graphics)/ EVGA GTX 280 C=756 S=1512 M=1296 (PhysX)/ G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) / Gateway FPD2485W (1920 x 1200 res) / Toughpower 1,000-Watt modular PSU / SilverStone TJ-09 BW / (2) 150 GB Raptor's RAID-0 / (1) Western Digital Caviar 750 GB / LG GGC-H20L (CD, DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay Drive) / WaterKegIII Xtreme / D-TEK FuZion CPU, EVGA Hydro Copper 16 GPU, and EK NB S-MAX Acetal Waterblocks / Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L (South Bridge heat sink)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Thanks...

    Mabey I wait a bit more on the new CPU...
    Yeah...I think you're gonna be fine. Don't get caught up in the fever. Listen to Grnfinger...

    I did the same thing last year. I went through several chips as I always get curious and want to try something new. Earlier this year I had a sweet E8400 that did 4GHz on 1.31v which I probably should have just kept

    Now my E8600 is great, but I've decided to spend my cash on other stuff for a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Save your cash
    I have spent alot lately on 2 E8600's and a Q9550.
    8600 was not much better than my 8400 I sold and 9550 is sweet chip but really it was not worth the 200 bucks for a few hundred mhz.
    upgrading the GPU was my best decision even if it took almost 2 months for me to finally get to use it.
    Yeah, that was too bad. Glad to see it worked out for the good, though.

    How's your MF RMA going? Any news?

    BTW, your chip has now moved on to another new home
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    My board is in the mail, I hope to have this week.
    It will be interesting doing a head to head.

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    OK...

    I guess the next jump for me would be an X58 board, and new CPU at the same time.

    Thanks again guys. You just saved me a grand.
    Asus Maximus SE X38 / Lapped Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz (L726B397 stock VID=1.224) / 7 Ultimate x64 /EVGA GTX 295 C=650 S=1512 M=1188 (Graphics)/ EVGA GTX 280 C=756 S=1512 M=1296 (PhysX)/ G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) / Gateway FPD2485W (1920 x 1200 res) / Toughpower 1,000-Watt modular PSU / SilverStone TJ-09 BW / (2) 150 GB Raptor's RAID-0 / (1) Western Digital Caviar 750 GB / LG GGC-H20L (CD, DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay Drive) / WaterKegIII Xtreme / D-TEK FuZion CPU, EVGA Hydro Copper 16 GPU, and EK NB S-MAX Acetal Waterblocks / Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L (South Bridge heat sink)

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    My QX9650 arrived today (I blagged 1 for £300! - rrp is £750 here), best BIOS for overclocking it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    OK...

    I guess the next jump for me would be an X58 board, and new CPU at the same time.

    Thanks again guys. You just saved me a grand.
    Smart choice.

    You'd notice the difference for some benchmarks, but for most use it would be a minimal difference at best. Not worth a grand. Your Q6600 is one of the sweet ones at 3.8 plus you've got it dialed in and the memory is doing well. Plus your GPU is flying... overall...you've got a heck of a rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Do you still feel the QX chips do better than the Q's in the Maximus Formula?

    Do you think there would be much of a performance increase for me if I am already running a Q6600 @ 3.8GHz?

    I keep going back and forth in my mind, if this would be a good upgrade for me...
    The QX chips are best for this board due to unlocked multiplier. This only matters for benchmarkers who whant to run PL5 DDR2-1200 @insane speeds. I bench my QX chip @ 4.5GHZ 410FSB PL5 DDR2-1233. Unless you're a benchmarker 3.8GHz with a q6600 is a nice overclock. U'd need to hit 4.2+ to see a noticeable difference for typical use. The only reason I can think of to upgrade cpu's is If I was after an E0 stepping dual that can reach 4.5GHz @ 1.35v or so. E8400 E0 steppings are $149 or so and nice upgrades for some but 3.8GHZ quad still scores more than 4.4GHz dual in 3DMark 06.
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    hi ther.
    i think that my maximus formula is a little strange from yesterday.

    In last 1 year i used my qx6800 4.2ghz daily (420fsb).
    From one month till some days ago i used my E8500 4.5ghz daily (455fsb).

    In last days i think that something strange happens to my Maximus Formula.
    Now i can' go up from 356FBS, its very strange.. its certain from motherboard because i lowered the multiplier of cpu to 8 and still doesn't POST!

    I tried this config, a config that i used to save on oc profile as "Safe prefile"

    356MHZ FSB
    1.35V CPU
    1.52V CPU PLL
    1.45V N.B
    1.84V RAM
    1.36V FSB


    Now this config DOESN'T POST!

    Currently i'm with Rampage Formula Bios 410, but i have already tried all the others including the maximus formula bioses and still cant run anymore.

    I confess that i gived some little extra boost in northbridge and FSB voltages for daily use ( like 1.65v and 1.50v), do you think that i fcked up the board?

    Help me please! Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirkved View Post
    hi ther.
    i think that my maximus formula is a little strange from yesterday.

    In last 1 year i used my qx6800 4.2ghz daily (420fsb).
    From one month till some days ago i used my E8500 4.5ghz daily (455fsb).

    In last days i think that something strange happens to my Maximus Formula.
    Now i can' go up from 356FBS, its very strange.. its certain from motherboard because i lowered the multiplier of cpu to 8 and still doesn't POST!

    I tried this config, a config that i used to save on oc profile as "Safe prefile"

    356MHZ FSB
    1.35V CPU
    1.52V CPU PLL
    1.45V N.B
    1.84V RAM
    1.36V FSB


    Now this config DOESN'T POST!

    Currently i'm with Rampage Formula Bios 410, but i have already tried all the others including the maximus formula bioses and still cant run anymore.

    I confess that i gived some little extra boost in northbridge and FSB voltages for daily use ( like 1.65v and 1.50v), do you think that i fcked up the board?

    Help me please! Thanks
    1.65 NB volts for daily use is a tad xtreme
    my suggestion is to clear cmos and set all values again manually, dont use a saved profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    1.65 NB volts for daily use is a tad xtreme
    my suggestion is to clear cmos and set all values again manually, dont use a saved profile.
    yeah i have did that..

    Only putted the configs that i marked above

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    Does it post AT ALL?
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    with more than 356FSB now it DOESN'S post, stays DET DRAM...

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirkved View Post
    with more than 356FSB now it DOESN'S post, stays DET DRAM...
    DET DRAM is a incorrect PL setting.
    post your bios setup and current hardware

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    I have a few questions.

    I got this board new back in December/January with an E8400. It booted right up (good thing since it's my first socket775 system) and it shipped with BIOS 0602. I recently tried the latest BIOS (1207 or something), but I could not overclock with it. I made sure the settings were all default before flashing, and I flashed twice to make sure nothing went bugged with the first, and it didn't fix anything. I could adjust voltages and timings and anything else, but if I adjusted the FSB, it did not stick and kept resetting to 333MHz after a reboot. Since I saw no difference in the BIOS, I reverted back to 0602 to be able to overclock again for now, and since reverting I have been able to. It's really not a big deal to me since I saw no difference between the two, but does anyone know what that was about?

    Secondly, what advantages does flashing to the Rampage BIOS bring? I know the X38 and X48 are all but literally the same thing, but since so many people have flashed to the Rampage's BIOS, is it superior? I've read through the majority of this thread and some things many times over, so I may have missed it, but there's alot of information here.

    Also, the Northbridge on my board runs fairly warm (~45C idle to ~53C load). I did the whole thing of removing the cooling (with a hairdryer) and replacing the stock paste with Arctic Silver 5, but it hardly helped (most people seemed to claim it should pretty much guarantee ~10C drops). Temperatures dropped maybe a degree or two, and there is a small 40mm fan on the Southbridge. It's only getting ~1.4V (450MHz FSB). Some responses earlier seem to say this is warm, while some others seem to say they are fine at ~60C, and a post linking to the Intel documents showed they were fine up to somewhere in the 90C range, and I think 85C if running at 1600MHz FSB. I find 85C and higher to be hard to believe, but the documents do state it. Mine didn't drop even after doing away with the stock cement and using thermal paste, so is it running too warm? Should I be concerned?
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    WOO WHO!

    My Maximus X38 just arrived today from RMA!!!!!!!
    It will be fun doing a head to head against the MIIF
    Both Q9550 and E8600, altho I already know the Q9550 results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    WOO WHO!

    My Maximus X38 just arrived today from RMA!!!!!!!
    It will be fun doing a head to head against the MIIF
    Both Q9550 and E8600, altho I already know the Q9550 results
    im very interested to see the results. i have a sneaking suspicion that the new board will be capable of 550 plus fsb.
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    Yeh post some results from the Maximus Formula.I tried to flash my formula to rampage but it kept complaining about invalid this and that.
    Also tips for my no-go Q9300 would be appreciated and some decent bios version.

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    Use Koda's BIOS Flash tool and force flash it to Rampage This Tool rocks and is real easy to cross Flash your BIOS, here the link here grab the newset version on this page. Sorry can't help with the cpu your running but others can.


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    Cheers.Got the Bios in but other problems occurred cause of that. Installed Rampage 403 Bios to my X38 Maximus Formula > No cpu vcore or fsb options after that.
    edit: With Bios 408 its the same...rather useless when i cant overclock at all with this "megasuper" bios.
    Last edited by N3it1; 09-18-2008 at 12:19 PM.

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    Then perhaps you've done something wrong? The Rampage BIOS adds a PILE of features........
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    Ye i figured out that also but what i can do wrong when i flash it with the Kodakey and it says succesfull?
    I mean hell...i did all by the book sort of speak.Those features just magically disappeared.And i got no clue what bios to try if i flash it back to normal X38 Formula bios since they all suck.
    I did the force flash and it said it was ok.Next thing i know i cant even overclock.I doubt it helps if i clear cmos or remove the battery.

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    did you choose Rampage Formula ?

    (silly question but who knows ? Not Rampage extreme ?)
    Edit : ok ... i'm stupid 403 408 are only Formula ones
    Last edited by koda; 09-18-2008 at 12:39 PM.

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