The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[chawks2]

Has anyone tried the E8400 E0 stepping on this board? I would imagine similar success would be found as E8500/E8600. Mine should be coming shortly, will post my results.

[askimo]

You can also consider 2x2GB since DDR2 is so cheap. Many here have had good luck with G.Skill

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166

It seems that G.Skill has a good reputation. What about the 2x2gb Corsair Dominator ddr2 8500?

[zlojack]

I can give a big thumbs up to the Corsair.

[Grnfinger]

It seems that G.Skill has a good reputation. What about the 2x2gb Corsair Dominator ddr2 8500?

Dominators will clock higher than GSkill
So will Mushkin XP2-8500

[HDPC]

Run the ram 1:1 and a higher PL maybe 9, nad bump the NB volts to 1.55
you may need more vcore as well

Hi Grnfinger and Zucker2K,
I am getting DET RAM on my LCD. I've am using bios 0308. Thanks for your help.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080

CLOCK SKEW advanced 250ps both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7] <-----I've tried 9 as well

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.318 <---I've also bumped this up a bit
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Zucker2k]

Hi Grnfinger and Zucker2K,
I am getting DET RAM on my LCD. I've am using bios 0308. Thanks for your help.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900 Not eeryone of these rams is stable at 1080 (or you'll need 2.20v)

CLOCK SKEW advanced 300ps both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Set Auto for 52
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 8 - 7, if you revert to 1080

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.318 <---I've also bumped this up a bit
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 (raise it 1 notch after every boot failure)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (900) or 2.14v for 1080
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 (raise it one notch after every failure, but go to NB first, this should only come after first trying to boot with 2 notches up on NB)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Try this, remember, it very important not to touch PLL; only raise vtt after going 2 notches on NB and failing to post or boot successfully into windows. Goodluck.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Try this, remember, it very important not to touch PLL; only raise vtt after going 2 notches on NB and failing to post or boot successfully into windows. Goodluck.

Funny, what made u guys think that g.skill DDR1000 can handle 1080 w/ PL 7 or 8? that easy, Here I maxed out at 1060Mhz PL 9 2.00v


E8400 E0








Thermaltak Big typhoon Lapped + Enermax 120mm @ 2100rpm

Zalman VF1000 + 2x 80x80x15mm Slim Ball-Bearing Fan

[HDPC]

Try this, remember, it very important not to touch PLL; only raise vtt after going 2 notches on NB and failing to post or boot successfully into windows. Goodluck.

Thanks for the reply Zucker2k,

I've set everything the way you suggested with the following:
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20

I am getting a INIT ROM on the lcd and the monitor has a cursor blinking, not going anywhere. I can't even get into the bios anymore. After I hit Delete and it is the same state.

I am stuck

Do I have to reflashed the bios?

I won't do anything until I hear back from you guys. Thanks.

-hdpc

[Zucker2k]

Thanks for the reply Zucker2k,

I've set everything the way you suggested with the following:
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20

I am getting a INIT ROM on the lcd and the monitor has a cursor blinking, not going anywhere. I can't even get into the bios anymore. After I hit Delete and it is the same state.

I am stuck

Do I have to reflashed the bios?

I won't do anything until I hear back from you guys. Thanks.

-hdpc

Unplug the power, wait i minute and turn the computer back on.

Edit: Bump NB to 1.35v

[HDPC]

Unplug the power, wait i minute and turn the computer back on.

Edit: Bump NB to 1.35v

Thanks again Zucker2k.

I am still getting BSOD with:
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 --> 1.27 --> 1.29
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 --> 1.22 -->1.24



Any more suggestions Zucker2k?

-hdpc

[HDPC]

Unplug the power, wait i minute and turn the computer back on.

Edit: Bump NB to 1.35v

Yeah Setting NB to 1.35v does boot. I am in Windows now. Thanks...

Time for some priming.

Thanks Zucker2K.

[loften]

does anyone have the entire maximus se heat pipe contraption they want to get rid of ? i don't have mine anymore, i think it got tossed out and i need to rma my board.

[ZenEffect]

Dominators will clock higher than GSkill
So will Mushkin XP2-8500

mushkin ftw
glad to see you hopped on board.
now test your new max(imus) fsb!

[Grnfinger]

Funny, what made u guys think that g.skill DDR1000 can handle 1080 w/ PL 7 or 8? that easy, Here I maxed out at 1060Mhz PL 9 2.00v


E8400 E0





Thermaltak Big typhoon Lapped + Enermax 120mm @ 2100rpm

Zalman VF1000 + 2x 80x80x15mm Slim Ball-Bearing Fan

That would be because mine run at 1103MHz 5-5-5-15 Dram static enabled
Clock Twister stronger PL7 @ 2.1 volts stable all day long.

mushkin ftw
glad to see you hopped on board.
now test your new max(imus) fsb!

There a really nice kit hit 1250MHz not stable tho, need to tweak them.
Might head over to there forum for some information on the dimms, see what others have got for a 24/7 setup.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

That would be because mine run at 1103MHz 5-5-5-15 Dram static enabled
Clock Twister stronger PL7 @ 2.1 volts stable all day long.



There a really nice kit hit 1250MHz not stable tho, need to tweak them.
Might head over to there forum for some information on the dimms, see what others have got for a 24/7 setup.

yours is DDR1066Mhz not DDR1000Mhz.

[Zucker2k]

yours is DDR1066Mhz not DDR1000Mhz.

Give it up, you'll lose this argument. NEVER use your experience as a yardstick.

Now which one is more difficult, taking 8GB of the G.Skill 1000s to 1066 (533 FSB), 1:1, PL9; or running 4GB of the same ram @ 1080 (450 FSB), 5:6, PL7 or 8?

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Give it up, you'll lose this argument. NEVER use your experience as a yardstick.

Now which one is more difficult, taking 8GB of the G.Skill 1000s to 1066 (533 FSB), 1:1, PL9; or running 4GB of the same ram @ 1080 (450 FSB), 5:6, PL7 or 8?

G. Skill DDR1000 have different Chips then DDR1066Mhz, there is even some differents chips among DDR1066 itselfs.... well I tested 3 kts of G. Skill DDR1000 2x 2gb and they were all about the same, less the 1100Mhz and all PL9, and them don't respond to higher voltages eighter. Just a little bit better then DDR800 2x 2gb kit wich could easily reach 1000Mhz but hardly pass that.

[RCG_Bex]

Well my E8600 hates me. Non of my prime stable OC's work without bumping up the volts. Putting her to rest. My partner can have her in his LAN cube.

I just bagged myself a QX9650 at an awesome price

~Bex

[ZenEffect]

There a really nice kit hit 1250MHz not stable tho, need to tweak them.
Might head over to there forum for some information on the dimms, see what others have got for a 24/7 setup.

mushkin support is really good. especially that mofo greg. my hp kit i can hit 1250 plus with ease, and 1200 cas4 pl5 with pullins benchable so im confident that a few tweaks and you should be up and FLYING.

Give it up, you'll lose this argument. NEVER use your experience as a yardstick.

Now which one is more difficult, taking 8GB of the G.Skill 1000s to 1066 (533 FSB), 1:1, PL9; or running 4GB of the same ram @ 1080 (450 FSB), 5:6, PL7 or 8?

what on earth are you using 8 gigs for (not flaming, just curious... those numbers are quite impressive for the amount of ram you are using)

[Zucker2k]

what on earth are you using 8 gigs for (not flaming, just curious... those numbers are quite impressive for the amount of ram you are using)

I was curious; jumped on the bandwagon... IT IS the way of the future, though I don't know how Nehalem is going to play out with the tri-channel DDR3, but we'll see soon enough.

[zlojack]

I had 8GB for a while (running at 1133GHz or thereabouts) but I found that my RAM use never went over 4GB, so I sold a pair of the sticks when I was in a cash crunch.

[OVERK|LL]

My little Crucial 667 sticks would do 1133 at 2.0V, thanks to some info from somebody on here. I had no idea until I tried it.

[Talonman]

I can't help myself. I just am not ready to part with my Maximus and the waterblocks I collected. Yes the X58 SLI boards are sexy, but apon long reflection, I won't be jumping board at this time...

Insted in rebellion, I've decided to make final decission on the QX9650 or QX9770. I really think I am going to click buy this time...

With my ram, would the QX9770 give me much extra performance over a QX9650?
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145

Do you have any opinion about if the Maximus does better with one or the other processor?

Currently the QX9770 on Newegg is $1,469.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115051

The QX9650 is $999.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115034

Do you think the QX9770 is worth $470.00 more in performance on the Maximus running DDR2 ram?

Any opinions would be appreachiated.

[zlojack]

Don't do it Talonman...your Q6600 at 3.825 is awesome.

If you really want to get one of the new quads, maybe the Q9650.

Also, when I looked at the P6T shots that were posted not too long ago, it kind of looks like the EK Asus blocks might still fit it.




It could be that it's not going to work, but so far the X38, P45 and X48 boards have all had pretty much the same layout and hole config and the block can work on all of them. I know it's a new socket, but the rest of the layout looks pretty close. You never know...but I would wait and see. Plus, if you spend a grand on a CPU, you'll probably only see a couple hundred MHz improvement in clock speed over what you've already got. (Just my )
Here's a link to another huge photo of it.
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_i...uxe_supper.jpg

[Talonman]

Really... I still can get 3.8GHz on my Q6600 like it's free.

I was hoping the new quads were a big step up in performance.

They are in price.

If my NB Block did fit, it may sway me a bit more toward a new mobo...
I would love an intel SLI mobo.

My 8GB of DDR2 ram would be trash...

The CPU block would be out for sure correct?

I feel like I would have to almost junk my current PC. That's the part that made me want to just throw some crazy money at a monster CPU insted. If it gave me a huge performance increase, it would be much quicker, and mabey even cheeper in the long run than x58?

If I make the jump, I need a new mobo, DDR3 ram, processor, and a new CPU block at a minimum. That is what makes the new quads look better to me price wise, with me just buying a new QX CPU, and using my Maximus. I do value your opinion though...
Do you think I woud be a bit disappointed for the money, over what I can do with my Q6600?

My Q6600 @ 3.8GHz and an OC'ed single 280=P14K in Vantage.
What would an OC'ed QX9650 or QX9770 and an OC'ed single 280 score in Vantage?