New Members Welcome & Advice Thread

[Kondik]

No cold drinks, Just many many botles of sparkling mineral water and they don't care about ambient room temps.
Any more info can be provided through the XS.org PM service , we're poluting this threat and SparkyJJO will give us a shock with his Shock Stick.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Lol don't worry he knows Martians are resistant to electroshock theraphy ( believe me they treid )

And don't worry, he won't even point his stick at us for this

[jcool]

Guys,

anyone know how much a 4870X2 gives with the GPU client, or if that even works?
I'm currently not running gpu folding on my G80, as it doesn't work so smoothly while working (would prolly need Vista, ugh -.-)

[Marvin_The_Martian]

it works, but it's even slower then a 3870x2 afaik since you're not using the entire arch and the part it is using is clocked lower (reference 4870x2 vs 3870x2). Idk the exact numbers, Legoman posted a direct link to his spreadsheets but that hasn't been linked in any guide/sticky I think???

Hint hint Riptide?

[jcool]

mmh ok, so I won't do that much FAH I'm afraid :/
My 8800 is kinda buggered with the newer GPU clients, only gives like 3300 PPD and takes a full core away from WCG, which is unacceptable I'm afraid

[Sparky]

Any more info can be provided through the XS.org PM service , we're poluting this threat and SparkyJJO will give us a shock with his Shock Stick.

WHY YOU, STOP CLUTTERING UP MY THREAD DARNIT!!!11!!.....

uhm wait....

Lol don't worry he knows Martians are resistant to electroshock theraphy ( believe me they treid )

And don't worry, he won't even point his stick at us for this

..........oh. Yeah nvm...

no it's fine, this thread's original intent was just more a random discussion, chit-chat, anything-type thread Talk away, that's what it is here for!

[Kondik]

OCed the PCI-E a bit, played with threats installed new 177.92 nVidia Drivers and we have 12750 PPD , so another +750 PPD [ Same proteins as before ]. Might try the new drivers as well guys. They definetly tweaked CUDA , because those additional PPD's I got on the GPU , it's 8.1K now, was 7.4K.

[Sparky]

Thanks for the info, will use those when I get my 9600GSO in

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Jcool post some more info, that's a rather bold statement to make..

Screenshots with client and taskman showing, fahlogs, config options, os... things like that.

IT DOES NOT TAKE A CORE, PERIOD! IF THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG AND MAYBE THE FAH TEAM CAN HELP YOU WITH IT.

If you don't want help, please also don't post FUD


@kondik, told ya so

[Computerville]

My name is Sonic, I got ADHD/DAMP and Asperger Syndome. I´m 16.

[yankee]

Just joined the folding team! I'll be tweaking over the next few days.

[Sparky]

Great to see all the new faces in this neck of the woods

[Marvin_The_Martian]

+1 new blood Sparky, prepare the shock eh theraphy room



Let's crunch

[yankee]

hehe marvin, the therapy room sounds inviting.

[p2501]

Hello there yankee and welcome to the team! Have a nice stay!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

hehe marvin, the therapy room sounds inviting.

You haven't seen our padded cells yet have you... don't worry you'll get there I feel the need for some electro shock theraphy from Sparky followed by a quick cleansing with the fire hose on full. After that, our padded cells will be just what you need for a relaxing month or two.

ps, this is the VIP threatment, you will have to crunch hard to get this honor. Not many one the team have gotten so far up till now, and those who have signed an nda to not make you look forward to this to much. I mean, we don't want to cause blackouts because you just bought the entire stock of intel quads from the egg and treid to run it from your measly wall outlet

[Kingcarcas]

New Yankee Stadium is shaping up to be better than i expected, but i still hate the Yankees

[XtremeBawls]

I'm new to folding, and wondering how exactly it works. Is it a program i download? And can i fold for different things?or is it all for the same cause? Any and all info on this would help me decide if it is something i would be interested in. Also, is there certain system requirements for it, or does a slower machine just not do as much?

[Sparky]

Yes, you download a program. It runs in the background crunches data known as work units, then sends them back when they are finished. Stanford pretty much decides what protein simulations they need currently. Nice thing is the CPU clients aren't really noticeable because they are a low-priority process. Anything else wants the CPU, it gives it up. Some things like video rendering may be affected but most stuff isn't.

System requirements vary. If you run the older, classic client, you can run that on practically anything. It just takes a long time for a P3 500MHz to get through a unit though For multi-core systems, there is the SMP client available, but it is in beta and sometimes can be a little bit on the fussy side. Then there are two other beta clients, the GPU clients, that run on nVidia and ATI graphics cards. Needs to be a G80 or newer for nvidia, 2900 or newer for ATI. Those can be fussy sometimes too, but so far the nvidia client I'm running hasn't been a problem.

For the most hands-free, worry-free folding, the standard client is the one to pick. Basically set it up and let it run, it rarely has issues. The only issues I've had in the last year with it was due to an unstable system. It just scores much lower than the newer clients. SMP and GPU2 score much higher, but you have to watch and baby sometimes and be willing to rip your hair out occasionally

[XtremeBawls]

Ok, so first off, where can i get these programs?

Also, i'm seeing there is other various folding teams for different causes, internet mapping, d2ol, etc. etc., can you partake in all of them.

I was also wondering why schools don't do this, like my school for example, its a small school, but if they ran this overnight, it could do a lot of damage, i can't imagine what a school with quite a few hundred computers could do over a short period of time running overnight.

Can you not have it throttled back? If you run these do they stress on components much?

If say you ran it on 10 or so Pentium 2 age computers, would it put much of a dent in the points you rack up? or would a machine of that age not even be worth it?

Sorry for so many questions...

[Sparky]

http://folding.stanford.edu

There are other projects, yes, they each have their own client, and many you can't run at the same time because they all want CPU power (mostly). Dimes you can run in tandem with other projects though, it doesn't use the CPU that much, just a blip here and there.

They run at 100% CPU usage, typically, but yes you can throttle it back to whatever you want. More stress on components, yes, and definitely more heat, but I've not had any hardware die because of it yet!

Running on 10 P2 computers won't get too far with folding at home. They could do some damage in dimes though, because dimes isn't CPU dependent.

[WFO]

Ok, so first off, where can i get these programs?

Also, i'm seeing there is other various folding teams for different causes, internet mapping, d2ol, etc. etc., can you partake in all of them.

I was also wondering why schools don't do this, like my school for example, its a small school, but if they ran this overnight, it could do a lot of damage, i can't imagine what a school with quite a few hundred computers could do over a short period of time running overnight.

Can you not have it throttled back? If you run these do they stress on components much?

If say you ran it on 10 or so Pentium 2 age computers, would it put much of a dent in the points you rack up? or would a machine of that age not even be worth it?

Sorry for so many questions...

For the folding clients... go here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download

I don't know anything about the others.
You can participate in all the programs you have computer cpu/gpu cycles for.

Schools don't do it because of the bean counters and power bills. I know someone on another team that was allowed to fold on 35-40 E6600s over the summer. He was putting up about 36K PPD.

The client priority is set for idle and it backs off when other programs need cpu cycles.

I've been folding for 3 years and haven't had any hardware die yet.

Pentium 2s are now useless for folding.

HTH.

[XtremeBawls]

So i could run dimes on multiple computers and then one of my choice that i want to fold for. What do the majority on extreme systems fold for?

I can run two folding programs, one on gpu and one on cpu?

Would my 1.3ghz PIII work for folding, or just for dimes?

[Sparky]

Yes you could run dimes on all the computers if you like.

I wouldn't say the majority run any particular project, there are a lot of us on F@H, a lot on WCG, and a lot on other projects. You pick what feels right to you

With your PC, you could run the SMP client and the GPU2 client together under vista, as long as you don't mind babysitting them every so often. I don't want to scare you away from those, but they are beta so I figure a warning is necessary However like I said I've had no issues with the GPU2 client and the SMP client has been pretty stable recently again.

Your 1.3GHz P3 can fold, using the older standard CPU client, slow but capable enough, so it is up to you whether you want to pay the electric to have it run. If it is running anyway, I'd say go ahead

[XtremeBawls]

I am using XP Pro 32-bit atm, not vista. Now to just decide what i want to fold for, thanks for all the help so far, more may be needed though...