The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Zucker2k]

Ok I think I have a problem here. My CPU kept getting 1 core stuck at 100% - took it back down to 4GHz and I've noticed it likes to hover at ~50-60% on each core now constantly. Im guessing its the CPU that's fecked but any chance that it's my board? Also hows the new BIOS?

~Bex

have you checked in task manager to see if a resource is using it? maybe explorer?

[The Nemesis]

Ok I think I have a problem here. My CPU kept getting 1 core stuck at 100% - took it back down to 4GHz and I've noticed it likes to hover at ~50-60% on each core now constantly. Im guessing its the CPU that's fecked but any chance that it's my board? Also hows the new BIOS?

~Bex

What's your cpu configuration in bios? TM & C1E. Could be thermal throttling if cpu is hotter than the sensors are saying. If you have another board or os mirrored on another drive I think I'd move the cpu or restore a previous OS clone before I did anymore overclocking. You need to get the the root of the issue or determine if theres a problem with your hardware before things get worse.

[RCG_Bex]

Ok, everything is back at default settings running stock after it crashed and loaded out 1 core at 100% again trying to play tf2 at 4GHz (it had been running prime alright)

Will let you know how it goes. I hope it's just windows cause I did get boot errors a wee while back trying to overclock past 4.8Ghz (.dll's etc)

~Bex

[The Nemesis]

Ok, everything is back at default settings running stock after it crashed and loaded out 1 core at 100% again trying to play tf2 at 4GHz (it had been running prime alright)

Will let you know how it goes. I hope it's just windows cause I did get boot errors a wee while back trying to overclock past 4.8Ghz (.dll's etc)

~Bex

Hmm, have you been overclocking the PCI-e bus too? YOu may have corrupted the os a bit.

[RCG_Bex]

110 - didn't think that was particularly high though.... Out of TF2 at stock - 1 core always hit 100%

~Bex

[The Nemesis]

My MFII won't boot with 2 X 4850's @ 110. And my Maximus Formula->Rampage would sometimes act wierd with it @ 110 unitl I lowered it back to 100. With the BFG 280GTX I could never duplicate the problem. Seems some ATI cards don't like the high PCI-e clocks. As for the one cpu being maxed for tfII I'm not very familar with that game but if it doesn't have native support for multi core (Quad Core) cpus then I would think that was normal.

[RCG_Bex]

Well that was everything at stock, so PCI-e was 100. I had vga boot errors earlier when it wasn't raised. TF2 has muilti core support whch you could see whas active but as I say, it would suddenly shoot up and get stuck at 100% or cause my PC to randomly reboot.

*sigh* I really don't want to re-install again just yet, want a good stable OC before I put my SSD in

~Bex

[les_paulde]

As for the MIIF, it's pretty awesome, but I want to see a few more results on the whole 16x vs. 8x PCIE issue (other than TweakTown), especially since I'll probably end up with 2 4870 X2's in there are some point.

You could check here, this guy's compiled a small collection of results. Might help ya out a lil bit...

[zlojack]

Thanks for that les paulde!

[les_paulde]

No problem! I was quite shocked myself when I was deciding which mobo to get to see how much of a difference it actually makes, if you're gonna add another 4870X2 I would certainly choose the x48 chipset. I must say that I am extremely happy with my x48 P5E deluxe which now runs as a rampage and would therefore highly recommend it, especially due to its price, or would you not even consider this board?

[Zucker2k]

I'll be getting my rampage from rma in two weeks if anyone is interested. Of course, it'll be cheap - $200.00 + shipping.

[HDPC]

hi,

Anyone with similar hardware configurations or like to give me a hand to get to 3.6GHz with the following hardware:

Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9450 "Yorkfield" + Thermalright Ultra 120
Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (Bios 408)
Memory: G.SKILL DDR2-1000 PC2-8000 8GB (4x2GB)
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB SATA2
Monitor: Dell UltraSharp 30"
Case: Lian Li
PSU: Corsair HX620
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit

I replaced my NB/SB and mosfets with Thermalright HR series. So I am hoping the cooling is good now.

Thanks in advanced,

-hdpc

[Zucker2k]

hi,

Anyone with similar hardware configurations or like to give me a hand to get to 3.6GHz with the following hardware:

Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9450 "Yorkfield" + Thermalright Ultra 120
Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (Bios 408)
Memory: G.SKILL DDR2-1000 PC2-8000 8GB (4x2GB)
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB SATA2
Monitor: Dell UltraSharp 30"
Case: Lian Li
PSU: Corsair HX620
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit

I replaced my NB/SB and mosfets with Thermalright HR series. So I am hoping the cooling is good now.

Thanks in advanced,

-hdpc

1. Flash to bios 0308
2. Set 8x450 on the 333 strap, set PL to 7
3 set everything to bone stock (manually), adjust cpu vcore as needed.
4. advance channel A/B skews to +300

See if this boots. Work your way from there.

[vikings]

Hi, in my pc in sign , I can't choose different memory profile (#1 or#2).
I read manul of my maximus and I saw that in Ai overclock tuner it's possible choose two different memory profile:

profile#1 (high performance)
profile#2(high frequency)

but when I set super memory profile ,I get only profile#2.
Why?
I tried with 1102 and 1207 bios version

[Grnfinger]

hi,

Anyone with similar hardware configurations or like to give me a hand to get to 3.6GHz with the following hardware:

Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9450 "Yorkfield" + Thermalright Ultra 120
Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (Bios 408)
Memory: G.SKILL DDR2-1000 PC2-8000 8GB (4x2GB)
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB SATA2
Monitor: Dell UltraSharp 30"
Case: Lian Li
PSU: Corsair HX620
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit

I replaced my NB/SB and mosfets with Thermalright HR series. So I am hoping the cooling is good now.

Thanks in advanced,

-hdpc

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080

CLOCK SKEW advanced 250ps both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Stable setup on bios 308 running a Q9550, you might have to adjust cpu volts

[HDPC]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080

CLOCK SKEW advanced 250ps both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Stable setup on bios 308 running a Q9550, you might have to adjust cpu volts

Thanks Grnfinger. I let you know how it goes.

-hdpc

[HDPC]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080

CLOCK SKEW advanced 250ps both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Stable setup on bios 308 running a Q9550, you might have to adjust cpu volts

Hi again Grnfinger,

I get BSOD during boot up, I guess when it about to start the OS.

-hdpc

[askimo]

Can somebody tell me what would be the best pair of 2gb of RAM to be used with the P5E mobo? I currently have 1gb x 4 and I'm thinking it is holding me back.

[NLight95]

That's because the G. SKills are using psc chips which will run up to 1100MHz easily on 2.0v-2.1v. They also hate voltages. Anything over 2.1v-2.2v and they turn to crap. Trouble is there are two revisions of the psc chips. Rev A & B. One will do around 1130 2.0v the other requires 2.1v just to get 1066 stable and doesn't clock as high. There's an indeth review on 4GB kits being done over @ Andantech. This info came from the author. All the testing is not complete yet but he spoke highly of those G. SKill & a Patriot kit.

I haven't had any issues with the G.Skill (my previous Crucial Tracers gave me endless headaches). I really like the fact that I can just boot with the stock voltage.

Didn't know there were two revisions. Thanks for the tip.I must have rev A.

[NLight95]

x38's and most P35's top out @ 435-450 for 45nm quads. I've used several boards from different chipsets same results. Some boards couldn't reach 475 to bench others were prime stable @ 475. If your after a certain clock speed and aren't benching memory bandwith intensive stuff go P45. If you are go x48 but you may top out @ 450-480FSB with 45nm quad. X38 I wouldn't pair with a quad, and most p35 boards were terrible except abit IP35 Pro.

What is generally the peak for 45nm dual cores and an X38? I'm thinking about upping my FSB for some more memory bandwidth. Also, what kind of nb and fsb term voltage would, say, a 500FSB require?

[JCGhz]

Hey Grnfinger.. does your Maximus II overclock better then your MF/Rampage board did?

I dont just mean FSB I mean all around.. ie(stable at lower vcore higher clock.. etc)

Thanks in advance

[NLight95]

You could check here, this guy's compiled a small collection of results. Might help ya out a lil bit...

I wonder if the rampage bios yields better xfire performance on the maximus than the maximus bios.

[NLight95]

Can somebody tell me what would be the best pair of 2gb of RAM to be used with the P5E mobo? I currently have 1gb x 4 and I'm thinking it is holding me back.

You can also consider 2x2GB since DDR2 is so cheap. Many here have had good luck with G.Skill

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grnfinger.. does your Maximus II overclock better then your MF/Rampage board did?

I dont just mean FSB I mean all around.. ie(stable at lower vcore higher clock.. etc)

Thanks in advance

Everything is lower, PLL, FSBT, NB, even ram volts are lower on the MIIF compared to the Maximus X38 , Asus just shipped my Maximus back today so I hope to run some head to head comparisons when I get it back.

[Grnfinger]

Hi again Grnfinger,

I get BSOD during boot up, I guess when it about to start the OS.

-hdpc

Run the ram 1:1 and a higher PL maybe 9, nad bump the NB volts to 1.55
you may need more vcore as well