The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Zucker2k]

Hey Zucker2k, what was the max FSB you could run your Q9450 on the Rampage Formula? Still can't get 500FSB stable but this Maximus II is an early production board with the A2 chipset. I'll probably try the E8400 in it just to see where it tops out. I'm guess 550FSB.

It topped out at 495 for benches. Highest I've run a E8400 on MF is 6x560. Your particular chip and board should make all the difference. No reason why you shouldn't be able to run 580ish+ max.

[The Nemesis]

It topped out at 495 for benches. Highest I've run a E8400 on MF is 6x560. Your particular chip and board should make all the difference. No reason why you shouldn't be able to run 580ish+ max.

Thanks, I guess I'll pass on the Rampage then. My chip topped out @ 495FSB for benching on the P5E VM HDMI & Maximus II. Kinda dissapointing since it does 3.8GHz @ 1.35v & can probably go lower.

[RCG_Bex]

Whats your GTL's at?
I had 4.1GHz pass linpack 10 loop test twice then it would fail after that.
Adjusted GTL's only and it passing 20 loops 3 times, going to prime it now

.65 n .67

Back on 4.8GHz (still testing) but it needed more voltages than last time...

~Bex

[The Nemesis]

RCG_Bex what are your vtt & pll voltages set at? Seems as though your cpu is degrading due to overvoltage in one of those area's.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Anybody have a bad or weird expeiience w/ flashing to new BIOS v1207? I did as usual via AFUDOS ES version and it booted once to ask for F1/F2 choice and of corse I chose F1 to enter and lookaround and load defaults and it never booted again. It is hanging on DET_ROM and sometimes displays ROM ERR. What happened.

Thankx!

EDIT: I had to use older rev OCZ Plats to get her going again and then drop my Crucials back in and set RAM spd and times manually as last time. So far, so good for now.

Oh yes, cause I know how hard it is for some to click the stand by button and check, I did it, I always do it, & it actually works again in BIOS v1207 in 1:1 and 1:2 as of now. I will test on my usual 5:6 tomorrow.

[The Nemesis]

Anybody have a bad or weird expeiience w/ flashing to new BIOS v1207? I did as usual via AFUDOS ES version and it booted once to ask for F1/F2 choice and of corse I chose F1 to enter and lookaround and load defaults and it never booted again. It is hanging on DET_ROM and sometimes displays ROM ERR. What happened.

Thankx!

Looks as though the memory adjustments made to bios doesn't agree with your micron based memory. Do you have any other memory you can boot with? If not, you'll have to try with one stick. If not successful clr cmos remove battery and let it sit for awhile. It will boot after this but use one stick go into bios do not choose 400 strap, choose 333 or auto.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Looks as though the memory adjustments made to bios doesn't agree with your micron based memory. Do you have any other memory you can boot with? If not, you'll have to try with one stick. If not successful clr cmos remove battery and let it sit for awhile. It will boot after this but use one stick go into bios do not choose 400 strap, choose 333 or auto.

That's exactly what I ended up doing from remembering of last time. I had to leave battery out for over 10mins and used my older OCZ Platinums w/ different ic's and it let me get the F1 for set up and I was good to go. I didn't have to touch voltages, I just fixed DRAM spd and rimings to defaults, manually.

Thankx.

That asside, it already feels like a better BIOS then my previous BETA v1004. S3 "Stand By" (Sleep) actuallly works in at least 1:1 or 1:2. Anybody else have good results to share? I will try to get some time to test in the days to come.

[Moto450]

My Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500's don't like this MB at all, I'm back to my OCZ 8500's and it works great. If I put the Crucial Ballistix back in I get Det Error everytime now with the new Rampage BIOS, so I just run it with the OCZ and it seems to work great.

[RCG_Bex]

RCG_Bex what are your vtt & pll voltages set at? Seems as though your cpu is degrading due to overvoltage in one of those area's.

That's what I wondered...

Used to be 1.5v v-core (1.48v real), 1.56v PLL (1.65v real) - I tried to get it stable but it wouldn't or went funny, so I just jumped back down to running at 4.5GHz which it's fine at. No degrading there as far as I know.

What I have noticed though is that it's running hotter... ~3c more lately without a higher ambient

~Bex

[EDIT] Just jumped back over to 266 strap, took my PLL back to 1.5, v-core down to 1.48v, nb 1.49, termination 1.4, 0.63x and 0.67x. Booted at 4.7GHz alot happier but I get fatal errors in prime

My CPU / board seems to have this funny thing that if there's a tiny but too much over it freaks out - so I'll try tweaking from here again

[zlojack]

Maximus X38 required 2.2volts for 1080MHz and would not go a drop higher without errors.

MIIF requires 2.1volts for 1103MHz and 1133Mhz with 2.2volts and they might go a tad higher with some timing tweaking.


Mushkin XP2-8500
MIIF requires 2.1 volts for 1255MHz
and I'm still trying to find the limit, this is running 5-5-5-15 dram static enabled and trans booster to stronger

What PL do you run for 1255?

[MGreg]

I've got a q9650 and maximus formula.
I have tried all the maximus formula and rampage formula bios' trying to find one that will let me get higher then 435FSB, but no luck , regardless of my settings or voltage (tried upto 1.75v nb)

Any tricks to 45nm quads? My q6600 g0 did 460 48 hours prime95 with this same board.
I've gone though any suggestions I could find in this thread incase it would help. Is it normal to get stuck so low on a 45nm quad? Think I'd run into same issue with an actual rampage formula?

[The Nemesis]

I've got a q9650 and maximus formula.
I have tried all the maximus formula and rampage formula bios' trying to find one that will let me get higher then 435FSB, but no luck , regardless of my settings or voltage (tried upto 1.75v nb)

Any tricks to 45nm quads? My q6600 g0 did 460 48 hours prime95 with this same board.
Otherwise I am looking for a new board.

x38's and most P35's top out @ 435-450 for 45nm quads. I've used several boards from different chipsets same results. Some boards couldn't reach 475 to bench others were prime stable @ 475. If your after a certain clock speed and aren't benching memory bandwith intensive stuff go P45. If you are go x48 but you may top out @ 450-480FSB with 45nm quad. X38 I wouldn't pair with a quad, and most p35 boards were terrible except abit IP35 Pro.

[MGreg]

thanks, glad the rampage should allow me to get higher speeds, really want 4Ghz and the 16x 16x will help so I can add another 4870x2.
Now to find a rampage extreme in canada

[Grnfinger]

thanks, glad the rampage should allow me to get higher speeds, really want 4Ghz and the 16x 16x will help so I can add another 4870x2.
Now to find a rampage extreme in canada

I had the same problem, 425FSB was max on Maximus X38 bought a MIIF and hit 500FSB easy

[zlojack]

My board is not liking high FSB even on a dual. I'm getting the urge for something different after almost a year with this board.

~490-500ish then good luck even getting into Windows...

I'm thinking I'm going to either grab a real Rampage Formula, a MIIF or splurge and go for a RE. But I also want to get a 4870 X2, so sticking with DDR2 might be a better move.

Zucker, what's your Rampage good for 24/7 on FSB?

[Zucker2k]

Zucker, what's your Rampage good for 24/7 on FSB?

I'm running two setups interchangeably; 7.5x560 (4.2Ghz) and 8x550 (4.4Ghz).

What bios version are you running? I've found that setting A/B skews to +300, DRAM Static Control = Disabled, and Clock Twister to AUTO can help a lot. You may want to give that a shot. Also, leave cpupll at 1.50v.

[zlojack]

I'm running bios 410 (just installed today, actually) after finding 0408 to be fussy.

550 x 8 sounds like a pretty nice setup, as does 560x7.5

My board would not like that FSB, for sure. It won't even post past the SETUP with FSB higher than 510, never mind for 24/7 operation.

[Grnfinger]

I'm running bios 410 (just installed today, actually) after finding 0408 to be fussy.

550 x 8 sounds like a pretty nice setup, as does 560x7.5

My board would not like that FSB, for sure. It won't even post past the SETUP with FSB higher than 510, never mind for 24/7 operation.

I think you need a new board

You know you want one, Canada Computers has a MIIF in stock atm
Now the Rampage Xtreme is a nice board if you have a spare kindney in exchange.

JUMP JUMP JUMP

[Zucker2k]

I think you need a new board

You know you want one, Canada Computers has a MIIF in stock atm
Now the Rampage Xtreme is a nice board if you have a spare kindney in exchange.

JUMP JUMP JUMP

Grn leave jack alone... hehe.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Gonna get an E0 8400 this week and then I tell u guys..

[zlojack]

I think you need a new board

You know you want one, Canada Computers has a MIIF in stock atm
Now the Rampage Xtreme is a nice board if you have a spare kindney in exchange.

JUMP JUMP JUMP

I hear ya... I'm back and forth on it. I really think the RE is a bit much, especially given the fact I'd have to spring for RAM as well, but it sure is tempting.

As for the MIIF, it's pretty awesome, but I want to see a few more results on the whole 16x vs. 8x PCIE issue (other than TweakTown), especially since I'll probably end up with 2 4870 X2's in there are some point.

Grn leave jack alone... hehe.

Hehe... peer pressure

[The Nemesis]

I've found that setting A/B skews to +300, DRAM Static Control = Disabled, and Clock Twister to AUTO can help a lot. You may want to give that a shot. Also, leave cpupll at 1.50v.

Hmmm wonder if this will work on MFII. My Maximus -> Rampage is back in box for the moment. The MFII wouldn't prime @ 488FSB but when I set everything to auto it primed for a half hour. I stopped it because auto set the PLL to 1.78v. When I get home from work I'll try this and see if I can get 488FSB to pass a few hours of prime.

[Zucker2k]

I'm trying to see what kinda bandwidth these G.Skill sticks are capable of... DDR2 1160 (1:1), 8x580, PL9.

[RCG_Bex]

Ok I think I have a problem here. My CPU kept getting 1 core stuck at 100% - took it back down to 4GHz and I've noticed it likes to hover at ~50-60% on each core now constantly. Im guessing its the CPU that's fecked but any chance that it's my board? Also hows the new BIOS?

~Bex

[kwalker]

Ok I think I have a problem here. My CPU kept getting 1 core stuck at 100% - took it back down to 4GHz and I've noticed it likes to hover at ~50-60% on each core now constantly. Im guessing its the CPU that's fecked but any chance that it's my board? Also hows the new BIOS?

~Bex

Sounds more like your operating system freaked out.
Probably scrambled the swap file and windows is looking for everything
hope the cpu didnt freek out