evil's dream world

[Waterlogged]

Tell me something Waterlogged. Why does your avatar have hair on the top of his head but none on the side? That's gotta be one of the creepiest avatars going...

You DO know who that is....right?

[orclev]

You DO know who that is....right?

I think that's the screwball emperor or whatever he's calling himself over in north korea. Jim Hong or something like that.

Edit: Wikipedia says his name is Kim Jong-il, so I was close.

[Waterlogged]

I think that's the screwball emperor or whatever he's calling himself over in north korea. Jim Hong or something like that.

Close...Kim Jong Il.

[evil-98]

The cheapest CNC I would bother with for a @ home business is a Haas Minimill.....~$30K before options.

evil, I hate you....you had to bring up G code, didn't you? I was trying to forget. There are very many machines that don't use G code in some way or another.....and they all use it differently.......AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!

now if someone would just drop off a 5 axis HAAS with automatic tooling at my door step that would be just peachy

you dont like G code?

edit:

ever been to the westech show? Haas usually takes up 1/3 of the opening floor

[cegras]

you didnt explain your post, i had no idea what you were trying to say

Ah, my bad. I wasn't feeling too bright that day. Well, I saw similarities between your proposed block and swiftech's new one (mainly the diamond matrix) so I thought I'd give you the thread for some inspiration. [good ideas, by the way. If I'm not too lazy I want to send you an idea I've been tossing around for a long time.]

As for the other person who said the internet has infected my brain, using language like 'butthurt' is just as insulting as using those smileys, so I was merely reciprocating.

And yeah, the internet has been part of my life for a very, very long time so it's proper to assume that some of the memes from 4chan will seep into my language from time to time. After all, they're quite effective, blunt, and brutal rebuttals.

[Rise]

anyone ever try out one of these? http://www.sherline.com/

small, cheap, supposedly precise and well-built. you just couldn't make full cover blocks... but you could make CPU blocks all day.

[orclev]

And yeah, the internet has been part of my life for a very, very long time so it's proper to assume that some of the memes from 4chan will seep into my language from time to time. After all, they're quite effective, blunt, and brutal rebuttals.

Please see the definition of rebuttal (act of rebutting), in particular the second usage. Using a term like butthurt is in no way a rebuttal, effective, blunt, or otherwise. However this is not the place to have this discussion, as it will quickly degenerate into a flamewar and is completely off topic. If you wish to talk about this more we should do so in PM. I can also explain the purpose behind the emoticons and why they are necessary in the context of a text only medium.

[orclev]

anyone ever try out one of these? http://www.sherline.com/

small, cheap, supposedly precise and well-built. you just couldn't make full cover blocks... but you could make CPU blocks all day.

Those look interesting but the way that site is put together makes me hesitant. It feels very small time, and I'd worry about the quality of the product. Of course, it could be an awesome product as well, so who knows.

Edit: Looking at the CNC option, it still looks like about ~$1000 for the bare minimum kit, and probably will endup with another ~$1000 worth of parts and accessories on top of that. Still, ~$2000 is a lot better than you'd pay for just about any other CNC system.

[evil-98]

Ah, my bad. I wasn't feeling too bright that day. Well, I saw similarities between your proposed block and swiftech's new one (mainly the diamond matrix) so I thought I'd give you the thread for some inspiration. [good ideas, by the way. If I'm not too lazy I want to send you an idea I've been tossing around for a long time

the block is a top designed to fit a MCW60 base

the reason behind the design is i have two MCW60s that i need to fit in a single slot solution

anyone ever try out one of these? http://www.sherline.com/

small, cheap, supposedly precise and well-built. you just couldn't make full cover blocks... but you could make CPU blocks all day.

i dont think that can handle milling copper all day..

[cegras]

Please see the definition of rebuttal (act of rebutting), in particular the second usage. Using a term like butthurt is in no way a rebuttal, effective, blunt, or otherwise. However this is not the place to have this discussion, as it will quickly degenerate into a flamewar and is completely off topic. If you wish to talk about this more we should do so in PM. I can also explain the purpose behind the emoticons and why they are necessary in the context of a text only medium.

Blah blah semantics. Actually, emoticons like the ones evil used (absolutely no hostility towards him now) have the same connotations as 'stupid,' or 'idiot,' or anything like that. So really, it was the same thing. I don't need / want an english lesson, so you can say my 'butthurt' response was a perfect rebuttal to his 'thumbs down' emoticon.

Let's take some liberties with rebuttal: "To make or furnish an answer or counterproof."

I certainly made an answer there.

Oh, and just to defuse my post: : P

[Boogerlad]

anyone ever try out one of these? http://www.sherline.com/

small, cheap, supposedly precise and well-built. you just couldn't make full cover blocks... but you could make CPU blocks all day.

sherline millls are ok, but it'll leave you wanting more. you'd be better off with a manual mill and then upgrade to a cnc one. A good mill is something like a sieg x3. i just don't trust sherline mills cause compared with some of the mills i worked with, that is like a toy.

[Rise]

Those look interesting but the way that site is put together makes me hesitant. It feels very small time, and I'd worry about the quality of the product. Of course, it could be an awesome product as well, so who knows.

http://www.sherline.com/about.htm They are a small manufacturing facility and have pictures somewhere on that site - not the easiest to navigate for sure, but you can't judge a book by it's cover. The facility looks LEAN, 5S'd, etc. The website? Well they surely don't have the tech know-how to make their own and probably don't even know where to go to get a nice one designed for them. Still, I try not to judge a company based off of their website.

i dont think that can handle milling copper all day..

I don't see why not... but you might be right, I don't own one so I don't really know. But would you really mill all day? and for 1/6th the cost of that other machine someone mentioned...

just thought I'd bring it up at the very least.

[MrMojoZ]

Most small tool companies have terrible 90s era websites. I think there it is required by law.

[evil-98]

I don't see why not... but you might be right, I don't own one so I don't really know. But would you really mill all day? and for 1/6th the cost of that other machine someone mentioned...

just thought I'd bring it up at the very least.

being that its such a small mill, a small run might take just all day its not 1/6th of the cost of other machines, its right up there with the X2 Sieg which is a machine im considering and i know that can handle a beating as its very popular and its much larger.

thanks for suggesting tho, always nice to see other options

[Waterlogged]

now if someone would just drop off a 5 axis HAAS with automatic tooling at my door step that would be just peachy

you dont like G code?

edit:

ever been to the westech show? Haas usually takes up 1/3 of the opening floor

I don't mind G code, what I don't like is everybody that uses it, alters it to suit their needs and if you have more than one brand of machine on the shop floor, it gets confusing quickly. This is very often the case in many shops and I can tell you that one of the shops I worked at had Chiron, Okuma, Mazak, Haas, and Citizen all using some form of G code and then had 2 Hurco's using an antiquated NC type program language and 1 Hurco using Ultimax II. They should standardize a G code set that everyone has to adhere to , as it is now, about the only things the same on every machine are G0 (stop), G1/G01 (spindle forward), and G2/G02 (spindle reverse)...after that, it's a damn free for all.

I had a slight faux pas in that post you quoted, it should have read like this;

Huh???

While there is a manual override on CNC's, it's general purpose is to be "non manual". CNC = Computer Numerical Control, meaning you give it a program and all it does all day long is repeat that program in an extremely precise manner (depending on how well it's maintained).


The cheapest CNC I would bother with for a @ home business is a Haas Minimill.....~$30K before options.


evil, I hate you....you had to bring up G code, didn't you? I was trying to forget. There aren't very many machines that don't use G code in some way or another.....and they all use it differently.......AARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!

If your super serious about a full fledge mini CNC, give the 622 @ www.smithy.com a look. I have a 1220XL 3-in-1 and while I'm not completely satisfied with it, the 622 does look like it's worth a serious look. There are a few reasons I'm not "thrilled" with my machine, some would be, it's metric graduated dials, really touchy gib adjustment, only capable of ±.002 accuracy and....it's a 3-in-1. I really should have bought separate machines.

[evil-98]

I don't mind G code, what I don't like is everybody that uses it, alters it to suit their needs and if you have more than one brand of machine on the shop floor, it gets confusing quickly. This is very often the case in many shops and I can tell you that one of the shops I worked at had Chiron, Okuma, Mazak, Haas, and Citizen all using some form of G code and then had 2 Hurco's using an antiquated NC type program language and 1 Hurco using Ultimax II. They should standardize a G code set that everyone has to adhere to , as it is now, about the only things the same on every machine are G0 (stop), G1/G01 (spindle forward), and G2/G02 (spindle reverse)...after that, it's a damn free for all.

I had a slight faux pas in that post you quoted, it should have read like this;


If your super serious about a full fledge mini CNC, give the 622 @ www.smithy.com a look. I have a 1220XL 3-in-1 and while I'm not completely satisfied with it, the 622 does look like it's worth a serious look. There are a few reasons I'm not "thrilled" with my machine, some would be, it's metric graduated dials, really touchy gib adjustment, only capable of ±.002 accuracy and....it's a 3-in-1. I really should have bought separate machines.

thats good info, ive never used a CNC before and im learning CAM right now, though most all software seems like a push of a botton now. so hopefully what ever mill i will eventually purchase works with the software i use flawlessly

[Boogerlad]

a good cnc mill that is 3 axis is the sieg kx3. comes with mach 3 software too, so should be fairly easy to use. it's about 6k. in the US though, i think it's under the smithy name model 622

[skinnee]

less jabber, more vaporware renders!!!

[Waterlogged]

a good cnc mill that is 3 axis is the sieg kx3. comes with mach 3 software too, so should be fairly easy to use. it's about 6k. in the US though, i think it's under the smithy name model 622

That might explain why the quality looks a lot better than my 1220XL.

[evil-98]

software:Inventor Pro 09
time: 30+min
renderer software: Maxwell Render
render time: 6+ hr (stock q6600 w/ HDT-s1283+ultra kaze)
post software: Photoshop CS3
post time: 5+ min (resize, gamma adjustment, frame)



my MCW60 single slot solution w/ 4870 heatsinks

[aspire.comptech]

/drools

[AndrewZorn]

SolidWorks doesn't turn out renders this good. Will Maxwell Render simply take in a SolidWorks file and be able to render it?

EDIT and your O-Rings are sometimes intricate. Mine are also custom. Should I worry about not being able to get an O-Ring like that? Did you create O-Ring 'channels' for it to fit in? If so, did you make it to where the channel's area was less than the cross-sectional of the O-Ring to compress it?

[migueld]

software:Inventor Pro 09
time: 30+min
renderer software: Maxwell Render
render time: 6+ hr (stock q6600 w/ HDT-s1283+ultra kaze)
post software: Photoshop CS3
post time: 5+ min (resize, gamma adjustment, frame)



my MCW60 single slot solution w/ 4870 heatsinks

Is this a universal block? I've been dreaming of this design for ages, please Swiftech or Eddie make this!! Please

One note: since this needs to be thin, I would suggest delrin or stainless steel.

This block needs to be done now, I think Eddie could make this for us, I'd buy one instantly

[evil-98]

SolidWorks doesn't turn out renders this good. Will Maxwell Render simply take in a SolidWorks file and be able to render it?

EDIT and your O-Rings are sometimes intricate. Mine are also custom. Should I worry about not being able to get an O-Ring like that? Did you create O-Ring 'channels' for it to fit in? If so, did you make it to where the channel's area was less than the cross-sectional of the O-Ring to compress it?

Maxwell does support solidworks directly, visit there site

as for Orings, yeas some tine intricate, generally because there just dreamed up
but if you base your designs upon a Oring then you will never need to worry
about weather or not you will have a oring for it. the channels are slightly larger to accept compression and as well as the depth of the channel

heres a good intro http://www.efunda.com/DesignStandard...ring_intro.cfm

Is this a universal block? I've been dreaming of this design for ages, please Swiftech or Eddie make this!! Please

One note: since this needs to be thin, I would suggest delrin or stainless steel.

This block needs to be done now, I think Eddie could make this for us, I'd buy one instantly

its not that thin, still sits to be .5" the top is .25" which is pretty normal for
acrylic tops, i just render the tops with clear tops so its more visually interesting
the block is based upon the 4870, but it can be universal just need to change
the mount a bit

[evil-98]

software:Inventor Pro 09
time: 50+min
renderer software: Maxwell Render
render time: 3+ hr (stock q6600 w/ HDT-s1283+ultra kaze)
post software: Photoshop CS3
post time: 8+ min (resize, gamma adjustment, frame)

these are quick renders, so i desaturated them because i didnt want to deal with color correction

just image smoked clear top, brushed stainless steel mid and a bright bead blasted copper base

LGA 775 OR 1366 mount