ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Grnfinger]

Sorry no heelp here, but maybe you could help me get my Overclock Stable?
VCore=1.36
PLL=1.5
NB=1.37
FSB=1.33

Passed 4 out of 6 test using LinPack ,but only using Half stress because for some reason IntelTestBurn will Not run using maximum Stress on 32bit Vista

set trfc to 55 and retest, your current value is 2 low for 4GB's

[Legacy]

This is what I get when I change tRFC to 55, everything else is left on auto..

PL 13? Should this be lower? I tried 10-12 and got the same result with Linpack.

Also is there a better way to upload Pictures, I am just using the snipping tool in Vista and uploading them to Photobucket

[Grnfinger]

This is what I get when I change tRFC to 55, everything else is left on auto..

PL 13? Should this be lower? I tried 10-12 and got the same result with Linpack.

Also is there a better way to upload Pictures, I am just using the snipping tool in Vista and uploading them to Photobucket

posting pics that way is fine,

leave trfc set to 55 and try setting this in bios and retest linpack

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 300ps

you may need to adjust your timing to 5-5-5-18 but try the skew first

[electricl]

Hey Grnfinger how much do I dare raise the voltages with this 45nm chip? Maybe 4GHz is out of reach, Id settle for 3.8/3.9 but it would be sweet to have a 4GHz quad!

[colt1911]

I was wondering if anyone would recommend me the Maximus Formula II for my Q9450? I'm looking to upgrade to a P45 chipset and change my memory from PC6400 to PC8500 . The best OC that I can get with current setup is 3.5 stable and I'd like to get at least to 3.8. If someone has the time would you please advise on this board and some good PC8500 memory? Thanks for your time and help.

[Legacy]

leave trfc set to 55 and try setting this in bios and retest linpack

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 300ps

you may need to adjust your timing to 5-5-5-18 but try the skew first

Ok i tried that with the same result , 1 out of the 3 test passed..

I do have a 400 Strap on the FSB(Don't know what that does)
CPU Scew Normal
NB Skew Normal

Under CPU Config Everything is disabled..

Should I change any of those settings ?

Thanks for your Quick replies !

[electricl]

Can I consider my oc stable if it passes linpack 10 loops? Im just glad it passed at 3800MHz and hopefully after getting better RAM Ill hit 4GHz with the help of this forum

[TouGe]

First time messing with this board and currently using shipping BIOS version 0701. I tried to achieve the lowest voltages possible while still maintaining 3.6GHz with as tight as possible RAM timmings and 15 pass Linpack + 150% memTestPro stability.

There's nothing pretty here as my chip isn't anything special but I thought it might help someone someday.

Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner:  Manual
OC From CPU Level Up:  Auto
CPU Ratio Control:  Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting:  9
FSB Frequency:  400
CPU Clock Skew:  Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew:  Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge:  400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2:  Auto


DRAM Timing Control:  Manual
CAS# Latency:  5
RAS# to CAS# Delay:  5
RAS# Precharge:  4
RAS# Activate Time:  12
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  3
Row Refresh Cycle Time:  35
Write Recovery Time:  6
Read to Precharge Time:  3

Read to Write Delay (S/D):  7
Write to Read Delay (S):  3
Write to Read Delay (D):  5
Read to Read Delay (S):  4
Read to Read Delay (D):  6
Write to Write Delay (S):  4
Write to Write Delay (D):  6

Write to Pre Delay:  14
Read to Pre Delay:  5
Pre to Pre Delay:  1
All Pre to ACT Delay:  5
All Pre to REF Delay:  5

DRAM Static Read Control:  Enabled
DRAM Read Training:  Disabled
MEM OC Charger:  Disabled
AI Clock Twister:  Strong
Transaction Booster:  Manual
Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3:  Disabled

PCI-E Frequency:  101

CPU Voltage:  1.34375V (1.31-1.32V Idle, 1.28V load, 1.26V LinPack)
CPU PLL Voltage:  1.51325V
FSBT:  1.15300V (1.14V Idle/Load)
DRAM Voltage:  2.21075V (2.20 Idle, 2.18V load)
North Bridge Voltage:  1.19275V
South Bridge Voltage 1.5:  1.50000V
South Bridge Voltage 1.1:  1.10000V

CPU GTL Reference 0:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1:  -45mV
CPU GTL Reference 2:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3:  -45mV
North Bridge GTL Reference:  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage:  Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage:  Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference:  Auto

Load Line Calibration:  Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum:  Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum:  Disabled 

[SiGfever]

Just ordered this board to replace my RMA'd P5Q Deluxe. I hope to have it by the end of next week. What bios is the most stable?

[Grnfinger]

Just ordered this board to replace my RMA'd P5Q Deluxe. I hope to have it by the end of next week. What bios is the most stable?

if you dont need E0 support I find 701 to be very stable.
802 is good and supports E0 901 dosent play well with my hardware

[TouGe]

if you dont need E0 support I find 701 to be very stable.
802 is good and supports E0 901 dosent play well with my hardware

I can second that on the 0901. I tried 0901 initially and had stability issues w/ anything above stock but I've had nothing but happiness w/ 0701. The only problem that I am having with the 0701 version is that I can't lower my multiplier in order to run 8x450. Everytime I try it resets to 9x450.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

im using 901.

8x multi
400FSB

ALL voltages set to auto and, they have adjusted themselves too the overclocked FSB levels.

Q6600 does not have a default of 1.4v, when i set the multi to 6x yet that is what was set at, so i changed it to 8 for a cpu overclock.

[Dr@gonXP]

Can I consider my oc stable if it passes linpack 10 loops? Im just glad it passed at 3800MHz and hopefully after getting better RAM Ill hit 4GHz with the help of this forum

By far not You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

[TouGe]

By far not You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

How long do you sleep?

[Dr@gonXP]

It's an approx. 8 hours test

Starting at 10.00pm till 6.00 to 6.30 in the morning.

[Legacy]

Not a Huge OC, but I think it's Stable!
Ran Linpack Test#2 on Vista 32bit for 100 Passes with no errors.

I would love to get this Chip to 3.8 or hopefully 4GHz but everything I have tried has been unsuccesful.

[Grnfinger]

By far not You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

not planning on keeping your hardware very long?

there is no reason to run 300 loop test let alone 100 loops
run 10 loops if it passes then toss it on prime or OCCT for 6-8 hours and its done.
And the plus side you wont kill your hardware

[Leeghoofd]

I can second that on the 0901. I tried 0901 initially and had stability issues w/ anything above stock but I've had nothing but happiness w/ 0701. The only problem that I am having with the 0701 version is that I can't lower my multiplier in order to run 8x450. Everytime I try it resets to 9x450.

How do you like the MFII over the P5Q dlx mate ? Is it worth the step up ?

By far not You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Worst tip you could ever give to users here... totally hardware kill and way over the top... but if you want to go and waste ya hardware and cycles on a stability test, be my guest...

not planning on keeping your hardware very long? There is no reason to run 300 loop test let alone 100 loops
run 10 loops if it passes then toss it on prime or OCCT for 6-8 hours and its done. And the plus side you wont kill your hardware

And then you get the suggestion of a wise man : 10 loops is more than enough, add some other tests and you are ready... users are really exagerating with all of this...

Not a Huge OC, but I think it's Stable!
Ran Linpack Test#2 on Vista 32bit for 100 Passes with no errors.

I would love to get this Chip to 3.8 or hopefully 4GHz but everything I have tried has been unsuccesful.

Stop doing that lol... why do I see 6gb of ram... do you run 2 x 2 Gb and 2 x 1gb sticks ? Have you tried dropping multi to eg 7 with 475FSB ?

[TouGe]

How do you like the MFII over the P5Q dlx mate ? Is it worth the step up ?

I'm not quite sure yet. The one downside of this board seems to be that there aren't too many users compared to the P5Q-D and the BIOS updates seems to reflect this fact.
I did not see any gains over the P5Q-D in regards to Everest bandwidth @ 9x400MHz (4:3 divider) 5-5-4-12-3-35 timmings and I was not able to achieve my normal 3.6GHz OC w/ any less voltages. I was finally able to get 8x450MHz to work but it meant me running PL 8 with AI Clock Twister set to Moderate whereas 8x450MHz was stable on my P5Q-D at PL 8 w/ AI Clock Twister set to Strong, not a big deal.
Don't get me wrong, MIIF is a nice board. I think it is just as stable as the P5Q-D. You are able to change GTL's per core if you are in to that and you are also able to see all the temp sensors as well as voltage read-outs which seem to report reasonable values--haven't tested yet.
I can't see any reason to recommned the MIIF over the P5Q-D, especially if you already own a P5Q-D. Maybe if Asus would pay just as much attention to BIOS updates for the MIIF as they do for the P5Q-D it would be a better board but.....
You do a lot more tweaking than I do so maybe you might be able gleem a difference between the two boards but for a casual tweaker I'd say they were identical in every way.

[TouGe]

As for stability I run 10 passes of Linpack for initial testing and 20-30 passes of Linpack and 3 hours of Prime95 blend for final testing then its back to crunching. If I don't get any errors reported over the next few days or none of my games freeze while playing then I am stable enough. I've got about 8 months of down time from crunching to catch up on. I've got no time to waste on excessive stability testing.

[Rattle]

does this mobo have the retarded overvolting like the p5q deluxe? in other words if i set vtt to 1.1 and pll to 1.5 and NB to 1.1 will it actually give me those volts when i am overclocked ?

[TouGe]

does this mobo have the retarded overvolting like the p5q deluxe? in other words if i set vtt to 1.1 and pll to 1.5 and NB to 1.1 will it actually give me those volts when i am overclocked ?

As for DIMM voltages, which have consistantly varied on other Asus boards, not that I have noticed. My DIMMs require ~2.22V to run @ 1066MHz & 5-5-4-12-3-35 timmings on the 4:3 divider. When using both the Maximus X38 and the P5Q-D that meant setting the voltage in the BIOS to 2.12V because they would always overvolt by 0.08-0.1V. If I were to lower DIMM voltage any lower I would start to see errors in memTestPro.
On the MIIF my DIMM voltage is set to 2.21075V (~2.19V under load) if I lower it one step more I would start to see errors in memTestPro. So I would say that the DIMM voltages (what you set compared to what you get) are pretty accurate.
I can only speak for my board and since I have not yet physically tested each read-out, and really don't plan to since I am not seeing any strange behavior, I can only go by past Asus behavior and what I am seeing now. In my opinion I think there is very little overvolting in regards to NBv, CPU Vtt, and a slight drop in DIMM voltages. I do not know about PLL since I've always left it at 1.51V.

[Rattle]

anyone measured these 3 voltages off the mobo? the p5q deluxe overvolts unless you set pll to 1.52 and vtt to 1.22 and nb to 1.16, this is the closest the mobo gets to real min voltages and it overvolts still, especially having to have the VTT at 1.22 and have no other choice is rediculous. I want a different mobo but not sure if i should go back to a maximus formula which i loved or try this maximus 2

[Legacy]

Stop doing that lol... why do I see 6gb of ram... do you run 2 x 2 Gb and 2 x 1gb sticks ? Have you tried dropping multi to eg 7 with 475FSB ?

I only Have 4GB installed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145197

I never even noticed that Memset read my Ram as 6144MB Must be a Bug.

CPU-Z , thinks I have 8GB installed

I tried to Run at 475x7 and got errors as well as 475x8

[yobi]

new bios coming