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Unc,
Why am I not surprised? Intel's agenda was so typically "corporate", and was designed by engineering management to tell us only what the legal department approved. Please don't be discouraged by Intel's disclosures, which were sorely lacking, since they chose to ingnore the 65 nanometer community. I think the entire farce raised more questions than it answered.
We know Intel admits Tjunction Max has factory variations that deviate from part to part and core to core, which is why we all see different core temperatures on identical hardware platforms at the same ambient temperature, and different core temperatures on the same processor.
This means that if a Tjunction Max specification is 100c for a given variant, some cores could be 96c while others could be over 100c. Obviously Tjunction Max specifications are not 100% accurate, and as such, should be regarded as an approximation which always has a + / - calibration factor.
I have difficulty in accepting Intel's specifications at face value, because it doesn't follow the extensive data that's been presented in this thread. Therefore, I still believe your original findings were very accurate. However, I thought that it would've been prudent at the outset to include the calculated 1c gradient between Tcase and your IHS measurement, which in turn would've corrected your findings by + 1c, making Tjunction Max 96c.
Additionally, consider the following; since the calibration method I developed for SpeedFan in my Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide does not use Tjunction Max values, then why, when I calibrate the Q6600 G0 on my personal rig, do the results show that it has an average Tjunction Max value of 98c? Why, when others have performed my calibrations, do their core temperatures also fall between 95c and 100c? It just doesn't make sense that you could've been off by more than a degree or two.
In light of Intel's stated Tjunction Max values, I think it would be sensible to extract and review some of the most revealing key posts in this thread, such as those from rge and a few others, so as to provide a well grounded basis for further discussion. Regardless, we're down to an accuracy of a few degrees.
Keep up the great work, unc.
I'm always in your corner!
Comp
Last edited by CompuTronix; 08-24-2008 at 03:20 PM.
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