After reading about youngpro I had an idea.

[cabbspapp]

That's the plan, I can't wait! This also gave me an excuse to get Vista 64 for my main rig

[Movieman]

That's the plan, I can't wait! This also gave me an excuse to get Vista 64 for my main rig

Not sure if I totally understood but you should be aware that this system with the sossaman(yonah) cpu's will NOT run a 64 bit OS..
32 bit only..

[Zytek_Fan]

Not sure if I totally understood but you should be aware that this system with the sossaman(yonah) cpu's will NOT run a 64 bit OS..
32 bit only..

The alternative could be to buy used servers. Since companies just throw everything away when they upgrade anyway.

[Zytek_Fan]

Who wants to go "borrow" a few Sun 6000 series from Sun?





Back on topic, I'm thinking I'll try to score some used servers when I can and hook 'em up to WCG. I MAY be able to get some from the local school district next time they upgrade.

[Movieman]

The alternative could be to buy used servers. Since companies just throw everything away when they upgrade anyway.

Who wants to buy this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-10-Powere...d=p3286.c0.m14

The problem with those is heat and electrical use.
Here's something to think on in regards to older equipment;
In 2005 I built a state of the art dual xeon 3600/2mb/800 rig.
Cost me over $3500.00 to build.
The best of everything and where is it now? Sitting on the shelf behind me doing nothing.
Reasons are heat and electrical.
It draws over 300w at 100% load, pumps heat like a small furnace and in WCG produces app 6500-7000 points a day.
That sossaman rig draws app 117w at 100% load and does app 7700 a day.
There are other viable options besides the sossaman system.
A macmini is a good choice.
A Q9450 at stock speed doesn't toss a lot of heat and is reasonable to run electrically.
I chose the sossaman because as a total package it makes for the almost perfect cruncher for those who aren't interested in crunching.
It's a lasy system; cool, quiet and doesn't need much if any maintaince.
Build it, configure it, then stick it anywhere you have a net connection and walk away and forget it.

[Zytek_Fan]

The problem with those is heat and electrical use.
Here's something to think on in regards to older equipment;
In 2005 I built a state of the art dual xeon 3600/2mb/800 rig.
Cost me over $3500.00 to build.
The best of everything and where is it now? Sitting on the shelf behind me doing nothing.
Reasons are heat and electrical.
It draws over 300w at 100% load, pumps heat like a small furnace and in WCG produces app 6500-7000 points a day.
That sossaman rig draws app 117w at 100% load and does app 7700 a day.
There are other viable options besides the sossaman system.
A macmini is a good choice.
A Q9450 at stock speed doesn't toss a lot of heat and is reasonable to run electrically.
I chose the sossaman because as a total package it makes for the almost perfect cruncher for those who aren't interested in crunching.
It's a lasy system; cool, quiet and doesn't need much if any maintaince.
Build it, configure it, then stick it anywhere you have a net connection and walk away and forget it.

Yeah I can see what you mean.
I'd rather focus on efficiency. My room is hot enough as it is!

[Movieman]

Yeah I can see what you mean.
I'd rather focus on efficiency. My room is hot enough as it is!

Then "Sammy" is what you want..
I kid you not, almost no heat from it.

[cabbspapp]

Not sure if I totally understood but you should be aware that this system with the sossaman(yonah) cpu's will NOT run a 64 bit OS..
32 bit only..

You didn't, Vista is for my main rig

[Movieman]

You didn't, Vista is for my main rig

Excellent and any questions on the build just yell and I have all the data and drivers needed.
Oh, and BUMMMMMMP!

[n00b 0f l337]

Let me see what I can cook up. So whats the final tab?
And do you need 2x1gb ram? Would less work just as well?

[WrigleyVillain]

Surely this has been mentioned in other threads but real nice interview with pro in Overclocker. And again thanks to Dave for this thread and to all who can and will help the cause

[cabbspapp]

Excellent and any questions on the build just yell and I have all the data and drivers needed.
Oh, and BUMMMMMMP!

Awesome, thanks.

[thane]

Post moved to more suitable thread..

[Milamber]

I would also like to thank you all for your comments and prayers - I worked with James and Thane and spent many evenings benching with James enjoying many humorous times at work creating scripts in the name of "fun". Thane and myself have been keeping each other as up to date as possible with news and support during these difficult times.

James is a very strong guy and his determination and will power will push him over this hurdle in life, he will be stronger for it and no doubt look back and smile with the confidence that he beat this disease - I am sure he will prove to be an example to us all. Our prayers and thoughts are with him every night - the road may well be rough and narrow but it won't be long before the way ahead is clear.

Your friends and family are right behind you James and we wish you all the best that you may continue with the strength and positive attitude that you show - you are an example to us all mate.

I also miss the jasmine tea

[n00b 0f l337]

Any idea on how one these would play for a workstation? I am considering joining the WCG movement, you can thank Dave for that, and I wouldn't mind having a LV cluster

[Movieman]

Let me see what I can cook up. So whats the final tab?
And do you need 2x1gb ram? Would less work just as well?

Including everything?
Board:$29.00
CPU's:$160.00 and shipping
HS:$20.00 and shipping
case: One in the thread for $54.00 and shipping
Then add your HD, a dvdrom and PSU
I would think under $400.00 total is your smart with your buying

Greetings OC Peeps...

My name is Thane.. Im a good mate of James from Adelaide. Not much of an OC'r but work with him in IT.

The amount of support he is receiving from the OC community is astounding.

It's incredible to see how much love and support he has from you all, and others alike from other OC sites and forums around the place. Your prayers and good caring spirit can never be quantified and have no limit so keep them coming.

We all know James will be back and benching WR's and kickin subzero a*se again in no time, and to help speed this up i'd like to take this opportunity to inform you of how and what im doing to help.

Myself, along with James' family and gf Sarah have formed a team to walk as part of a fundraiser to raise money for the Leukaemia Foundation. The organisation helps those like Pro by providing a range of support services to help sufferers get back on their feet, and make their lives a little easier when they need it most. Money raised also goes to researching a cure.

The day after James' diagnosis a news bulletin was released in relation to the fight against Leukaemia. Scientists from Melbourne and Adelaide have discovered a protein on the outside of the immature white blood cells that sends a message prompting the body to create more white blood cells at an infant stage, this is Leukaemia. The discovery of this protein means that science can fight the Leukaemia by stopping the protein from sending the message. This is a huge breakthrough. Scientists believe they will have a drug that will do this with in 5 years. This isnt a cure, but it stops Leukaemia, putting us one step closer to the cure.

Funds raised for the foundation will go towards creating this drug. So i'm doing whatever the fk I can to help get James back.

If you would like to make a donation or read more about the fantastic things the Leukaemia Foundation will do to help James and those alike, please visit Light the Night.

If you would like to join our team (search for team name 'Race Him') or make a donation, no matter how large or small, I encourage you to visit this link: Here it is and put a few coins forward for your Extreme Legend.

Your support is massively appreciated.

For a top guy who never asks for anything but offers so much to many, i'd like to say this and i'm sure im not alone:

You're a fkn champ James. You answer all my dumb IT questions at work and home, you help me understand things that just dont seem to make sense, and best of all we have some good laughs together. Get back on your feet mate and we'll be making cardboard cricket gear and smashing 6's in the office again when no-ones around in no time.. Whatever it takes mate. You'll beat this. Never back down, never quit.

Cheers

Thane

I would also like to thank you all for your comments and prayers - I worked with James and Thane and spent many evenings benching with James enjoying many humorous times at work creating scripts in the name of "fun". Thane and myself have been keeping each other as up to date as possible with news and support during these difficult times.

James is a very strong guy and his determination and will power will push him over this hurdle in life, he will be stronger for it and no doubt look back and smile with the confidence that he beat this disease - I am sure he will prove to be an example to us all. Our prayers and thoughts are with him every night - the road may well be rough and narrow but it won't be long before the way ahead is clear.

Your friends and family are right behind you James and we wish you all the best that you may continue with the strength and positive attitude that you show - you are an example to us all mate.

I also miss the jasmine tea

To Thane and Milamber:
With friends like you Youngpro can't go wrong.

Any idea on how one these would play for a workstation? I am considering joining the WCG movement, you can thank Dave for that, and I wouldn't mind having a LV cluster

It isn't a workstation.
Onboard vid and just a x8 PCI-E slot BUT you can mod that to take a X16 vid card or get a x1 vid card from the egg..I think Gigabyte makes one for app $100

[n00b 0f l337]

4 cores, with a bunch of ram could make a decent server or rendering station as I see it. I'll see what cash I have available and cook something up

PCI-e 8x? I thought it was a PCIX133..

[n00b 0f l337]

Dave do you have a picture of this 8 pin? Might try and create a simple adaptor for it instead of having to find an 8 pin powersupply, which maybe I dont know the proper type, can't seem to find.

[xlink]

Dave, you know what also has 60-70% of the performance of a 3.6Ghz q6600... a 2.4Ghz Core 2 quad. And I've seen them go for $200 with board at fry's electronics. also they use cheaper RAM and can also be cooler fairly easily when the chip is set to 1.0-1.1V.


also sossaman is around 15-20% slower per clock than conroe(as a whole I'm not entirely sure about DC projects), just letting you know. 1666*.8=1333. and then both have 4 cores, so really a 2.4Ghz kents would be around 80% faster and would probably draw about as much power after factoring undervolting

[Movieman]

Dave, you know what also has 60-70% of the performance of a 3.6Ghz q6600... a 2.4Ghz Core 2 quad. And I've seen them go for $200 with board at fry's electronics. also they use cheaper RAM and can also be cooler fairly easily when the chip is set to 1.0-1.1V.


also sossaman is around 15-20% slower per clock than conroe(as a whole I'm not entirely sure about DC projects), just letting you know. 1666*.8=1333. and then both have 4 cores, so really a 2.4Ghz kents would be around 80% faster and would probably draw about as much power after factoring undervolting

actually the sossaman's produce a tiny bit more per clock than the Q6600..
Weird but true and tested by me against my Q6600 at 3600 but you have a point in a way.
The difference's come in time. That board you'll get at fry's in a combo deal is probably cheaper than hell while this Intel board was orginally a $430.00 server board.. There is more than meets the eye here.

[n00b 0f l337]

Two Mobo's on the way. Once I get them expect a nice buildlog where I create an open Acrylic T case

Thanks again Movieman for the help, so now that's 2 mobo's, 2x512mb ram for the first mobo, 2 heatsinks, I have hd, power supply, and cd, so just need CPU's and some thermal paste it would seem. Probably put my X850XTPE in this, dunno, just maybe :P

Now if only two people on ebay would pay up.

[Bootup05]

I wan't to show my support, So i've Just ordered one of tese boards, and will be slowly piecing it together whilst income comes in.

This Thread Needs a Sticky.


EDIT: Ah it has a sticky. I was looking in the wrong section for it

[[XC] riptide]

RIP Youngpro, I didn't know him But He sounds like a great guy, and has massive support here.

ehh... the chap is alive and kicking you know. Just going through a hard time.

[Bootup05]

Damn my post before reading ways!

All the best to youngpro, let him make his future the best it can be

I had a friend with the same thing, (Only 16 at the time) So I partially know your family's pain.

Im not sure what to say now after my up! Just forfill your dreams!

[jcool]

Great thread Dave, as always. Welcome to the team NoL, cabbspapp & bootup05

Just a sidenote for those who have more to spend, but care very much about efficiency: The most efficient rig for WCG you can currently build is a dual Harpertown (Octacore) rig.
Initial cost is high, but with outputs ranging from 30000 to 40000 points a day at below 300W power drain, this is a force to be reckoned with. It's also about the fastest thing you can get if you're doing CPU-intensive simulations of any kind, raytracing or video editing.

Parts needed:

- 2x E5420 S771 Quadcore Xeons, approx. 600 USD
- Asus Z7S WS mobo (there are cheaper mobos, but this one's overclockable, standard ATX size and also draws very little power) - 500 USD
- at least 2x1GB DDR2-800 FBDimm memory, appox. 110 USD
- good quality EPS capable PSU (24pin + 8pin + 4pin connectors), should have high efficiency (for example Corsair HX520) - approx. 110 USD
- Case should be well ventilated, other than that you can use pretty much any case as long as you're using Intel stock coolers
- generic hdd and any GFX card, even PCI and you're set

So if you have appox. 1500 USD to spend this is the way to go.