something i did not pickup on when i had my E8500 installed...maybe i overlooked it...in the CPU Configuration page in the bios, i now see a "VID" selection so i can set any VID as a minimum...so...on my 9650, i selected 1.40v for a minimum VID and then i can use smaller Vcore increases in "O.N.E." page to ensure a good save and boot into windows.

can someone with an E8500 go check their CPU Configuration page to see if you have a "VID" selection?