"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[jas420221]

1201 brought me stable to settings in sig, though I think my vcore is too high...Im still trying for 4Ghz...

[Zeus]

Now let's see a 32mb Pi master of the seas, I know you can do it...

I wish.

I've been working my fingers to the bone to get 600fsb somehow stable but to no avail it seems.

Really dissapointing, i thought 600FSB was a walk in the park on these P45 boards.

Guess i was wrong.

I'm thinking about getting a Rampage now.

[NBF]

I wish.

I've been working my fingers to the bone to get 600fsb somehow stable but to no avail it seems.

Really dissapointing, i thought 600FSB was a walk in the park on these P45 boards.

Guess i was wrong.

I'm thinking about getting a Rampage now.

Did you try to mess with the CPU and NB Skews?

CPU Clock Skew - 400, NB Clock Skew - 100 may give a few more MHz

[truehighroller]

I couldn't find the specs for voltages on the e6600. I thought I did and Intel had removed it go figure.

[Zeus]

Did you try to mess with the CPU and NB Skews?

CPU Clock Skew - 400, NB Clock Skew - 100 may give a few more MHz

Yes i did.

These values were worse than auto.

Memtest 86 test 7 reveals instability, giving multiple errors.

[Martin.v.r]

all the problems we have,is about Strap to mem

[Kartoff]

Max FSB i reach...



Still trying to get more and i am sure this E0 CPU can
Working on 4,2 GHz 1,28v. (1,3 BIOS) instead of my old E8400 witch i sell yesterday, that can do only 3,6GHz at same voltage...

[Leeghoofd]

Yes i did.

These values were worse than auto.

Memtest 86 test 7 reveals instability, giving multiple errors.

Same here, if I even touched the NB skew it wouldn't post, I just messed with the skew delays of the ram and got the 600/1200 32mb Pi run



Multi was 7 so for 4.2Ghz... haven't tried it since 0803 bios to occupied with biosses and new builds...

[ThugsRook]

Memtest 86 test 7 reveals instability, giving multiple errors.

confirmed, same problem here. i hit that same wall and have not been able to get past it

[Tulû]

Stability is depending on ya own preferences mate, some prefer 12 hours prime small FFT's and then afterwards large, some run an OCCT test cpu and mixed, some do superpi runs, some do benchmarks, some make a mix... if the rig is stable in daily usage and you don't experience any anomalies consider it stable for your usage... I find it absolutely waste of time and cycles to prime for such extended periods but to each his own not even considering the extra load on ya pc's components

I was playing Assassin's creed and it crashed , gave an application error. (something like : memory can't read XXX adress ... )
After it , i ran the " blend " test after a minute prime95 crashed too . Gave an application error.(something like : memory can't read XXX adress )
I've ran three hours small FFTs yesterday and was stable.
I've read somewhere that if it gives an error in blend or large-FFT's, playing with NB,NB GTL REF may work .
Is this true ? What should i do now ?

Edit: My RAM's were rated as 2.1V at 1200MHz at 5-5-5-18 ( trfc 33 ) , but i'm using them at 1278 MHz at 5-5-5-15 ( trfc 40 ) .
I tried to use as def. 5-5-5-18 but gave error again.
Finally i tried to raise the dram voltage by 0.02V = 2.12 V and now it passed to test 4 and there is no error yet.

[Zeus]

Leeghoofd, what skew values did you use for RAM?

I used 100ps delay for both channel A (only actually using channel A1) and nothing for channel B.

[Tulû]

I was playing Assassin's creed and it crashed , gave an application error. (something like : memory can't read XXX adress ... )
After it , i ran the " blend " test after a minute prime95 crashed too . Gave an application error.(something like : memory can't read XXX adress )
I've ran three hours small FFTs yesterday and was stable.
I've read somewhere that if it gives an error in blend or large-FFT's, playing with NB,NB GTL REF may work .
Is this true ? What should i do now ?

Edit: My RAM's were rated as 2.1V at 1200MHz at 5-5-5-18 ( trfc 33 ) , but i'm using them at 1278 MHz at 5-5-5-15 ( trfc 40 ) .
I tried to use as def. 5-5-5-18 but gave error again.
Finally i tried to raise the dram voltage by 0.02V = 2.12 V and now it passed to test 4 and there is no error yet.

When i edited this message , i got rounding error on core0 but there was no application error this time .


Edit :I tried again and got application error after 7 mins.

[MonsterDK]

Or it's only with 1201 and 65nm Quads , as the York here works fine mate...



Can I have your template plz just to test your settings (don't go bonkers on the ram as I only have 4gb kits here)



LLC enabled or Disabled ?

LLC is disabled.

[Tulû]

When i edited this message , i got rounding error on core0 but there was no application error this time .


Edit :I tried again and got application error after 7 mins.

Tried to lower the DRAM freq. to 1137MHz and no errors and application error for about 15 mins.
So, what may cause this errors or/and application error ?
NB voltage ? DRAM voltage ?

BTW , i changed the NB GTL REF from AUTO to 0.630.

DRAM Read Training: Enabled ( was AUTO )
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled ( was AUTO )
AI Clock Twister: Lighter ( was AUTO )

I have AI Transaction Booster at AUTO , should i change it to manual ? If yes , to which level should i change ?

Stable for about 25 mins.

[Leeghoofd]

Leeghoofd, what skew values did you use for RAM?

I used 100ps delay for both channel A (only actually using channel A1) and nothing for channel B.

think it was 150 with my Gskills mate...

LLC is disabled.

Fill in the template plz :

P5QDlx Template

Tried to lower the DRAM freq. to 1137MHz and no errors and application error for about 15 mins.
So, what may cause this errors or/and application error ?
NB voltage ? DRAM voltage ?

BTW , i changed the NB GTL REF from AUTO to 0.630.

DRAM Read Training: Enabled ( was AUTO )
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled ( was AUTO )
AI Clock Twister: Lighter ( was AUTO )

I have AI Transaction Booster at AUTO , should i change it to manual ? If yes , to which level should i change ?

Stable for about 25 mins.

Don't change all at once, how will you know now what helped ? Was it the lower ram clock or the other settings or a mix off...

What was your error now ? was it running them rams way out of spec with too tight latencies and trfc...? have you tried to run them 1278 with 5-5-5-18 Trfc 55 ? if you would like to run them at these speeds think you will need a bit more than 2.12 in bios , I need 2.3 real for just 1200mhz with my Gskills... mine can't even get as far as yours.... you got some nice rams there cherish them

[Tulû]

Don't change all at once, how will you know now what helped ? Was it the lower ram clock or the other settings or a mix off...

What was your error now ? was it running them rams way out of spec with too tight latencies and trfc...? have you tried to run them 1278 with 5-5-5-18 Trfc 55 ? if you would like to run them at these speeds think you will need a bit more than 2.12 in bios , I need 2.3 real for just 1200mhz with my Gskills... mine can't even get as far as yours.... you got some nice rams there cherish them

You're right .
I was panicked when it crashed in prime .
As you said , changed lots of settings at once .
When i first installed my rams i wanted to run at 1201 MHz at 2.1V 5-5-5-18 trfc 35 , because they were rated at 2.1V and trfc 33 .
But 35 didn't work and 've tried 40, 40 was OK.
I've ran memtest86+ with no errors .But today while playing a game i got application error and after that tried to run blend test , it gave application error too. After that made the above changings.

Now , it's stable for about 55 mins. ( blend )
rams are @ 1134MHz @ 5-5-5-19 trfc40 @ 2.12V now.

Now , what do you recommend me to do first to change the ram freq. back to 1278MHz ?

Edit : Got error on core0 .

Edit2: Now , set back to 1278MHz @ 2.14V(0.02V increase) @ 5-5-5-19 trfc 60 ( always running at 40 ) .
Stable for about 50 mins.

Edit3: Again error on core0 after 52 mins.

Now raised the NB Voltage to 1.36V . ( was 1.34)

[Ender17]

I had some kind of issue where it wouldn't shut down, only restart and fixed it by moving to a different case (grounding problem?).

Now this is another problem that has been going on about the same length of time, but I just started messing around with it again tonight. The computer will not go to Sleep. When I select that command, the monitor turns off, but not the fans and then it's completely non responsive. I have to turn it off with the power switch. When I turn it back on, it will just sit there with the video card fan spun up and a black screen, no post or anything. Then I hit reset and it comes up, but sometimes the BIOS settings are all erased and when I get into Windows, the time has been reset to 2001.

It doesn't do this everytime, sometimes I just have to turn it off and back on and then it boots up and when it gets to Windows it says "resuming" like it went to sleep.

Any ideas? This same system used to Sleep without any issues.

edit: this mothering piece of is doing the restart thing again instead of turning off
it was working fine all day, I didn't change a single piece of hardware
I'm RMAing the motherboard or the whole system if I have to


Specs:
Asus P5Q Deluxe
Intel Q9450
2 x 2GB Corsair Dominator
ATI 4870
VelociRaptor
Corsair HX620W
Windows Vista Ultimate x64

[Mumid]

Here is my memory performance with 4GB:



Needs 1.30 vNB to be linpack stable

[Tulû]

You're right .
I was panicked when it crashed in prime .
As you said , changed lots of settings at once .
When i first installed my rams i wanted to run at 1201 MHz at 2.1V 5-5-5-18 trfc 35 , because they were rated at 2.1V and trfc 33 .
But 35 didn't work and 've tried 40, 40 was OK.
I've ran memtest86+ with no errors .But today while playing a game i got application error and after that tried to run blend test , it gave application error too. After that made the above changings.

Now , it's stable for about 55 mins. ( blend )
rams are @ 1134MHz @ 5-5-5-19 trfc40 @ 2.12V now.

Now , what do you recommend me to do first to change the ram freq. back to 1278MHz ?

Edit : Got error on core0 .

Edit2: Now , set back to 1278MHz @ 2.14V(0.02V increase) @ 5-5-5-19 trfc 60 ( always running at 40 ) .
Stable for about 50 mins.

Edit3: Again error on core0 after 52 mins.

Now raised the NB Voltage to 1.36V . ( was 1.34)

With raised NB voltage got error on core0 just after 30 mins.
Will try to fix it tomorrow.

[Kartoff]

Just measured vDIMM here... Voltages are exact same as BIOS setting... I set 1,98v. for 1080 5-5-5-15 because i know this mobo has some overvolt, but it was unstable because my RAM need little more than 2v. to do this... So i measured and now i set 2,02v. in BIOS and measured again and it is also same as BIOS... I am vith BIOS 1201 to test it for second time with my new CPU

[samsonJS]

My 24/7 clock is 8x475 = 3.8ghz @ 1.336v IntelBurnTest stable (20x). It was prime95 blend stable for 2 days at 1.312, and overnight at 1.304,
so no more wasting hours testing for half-stability. I've bumped vtt & nb core since these screenshots, but if all you want is prime/occt stability...







Ai clock twister: lighter
Ai transaction booster: auto



I have gone up to 3.99ghz / 499fsb on this board, and with my ep45-ds3r I have done an hour of prime95 small ffts at 4ghz. Very happy with my chip & both boards.

http://samhuri.net/q9450-494fsb.jpg (p5q-e)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=403951 (p5q-e)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=390599 (ep45-ds3r)

http://nofxwiki.net/f/fsb-490-3920mh...small-ffts.jpg (ep45-ds3r)

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I was hovering around 80-85 C when 4ghz with prime95... but I started using IntelBurnTest today and
wow does it get the cpu hot. First time I have tripped the PROCHOT switch.

500fsb is a no go on the p5q-e but I ran IntelBurnTest run 10 times. I had to increase some of my voltages to get a 2 day
prime95 blend-stable box stable with IBT so it seems pretty good at what it does.

http://samhuri.net/q9450-499fsb-ibt-stable.jpg (p5q-e)





I'm sure I don't need vcore this high since I did 4.0ghz on my ep45-ds3r with 1.42v, but I was going for 500 and when I wasn't willing to increase any voltages I just backed down to 499 at the insane levels to see if it was a wall. it was.



here she is:


nb cooling! yup... i haven't attached the fan yet so it's held up by a usb stick.

[bigcesar]

hello

my max fsb stable:



with this config and BIOS 1103:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 6
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 1196
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
CAS# Latency:6
RAS# to CAS# Delay:6
RAS# Precharge:6
RAS# Activate to Precharge:20
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: 55
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: lighter
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.3
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.42
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.42
NB GTL Reference: 0.550
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
clock skew cpu 400
clock skew nb 200
cpu optimized
all Advance CPU Settings disabed





and max fsb validate cpuz

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=405955

with 599 fsb the mobo no boot...next step set fsb for my dream 600fsb? or e8400 is fsb wall?

[pajda]

Hi

Anyone could help with flawlessy moving my raid 0 from p5b dlx to p5q dlx.
Do i only need to plug hdds to the new borad or i also need to set the same seetings in intel raid bios like i have it on p5b?
Dont wanna lose my data.
Any help would be great.

[xTKxhom3r]

dang this thread moves so ing fast!...anyways

i have my 8400 stable at 4.5 with every thing on auto except my memory and cpu voltage why does everyone say that you have to cahgne the gtl and nb and pll i left everything on auto and i left occt running for 6 hrs on a cpu test and 3 hrs on blend so im guessing im 100% stable

[Tulû]

With raised NB voltage got error on core0 just after 30 mins.
Will try to fix it tomorrow.

Tried to raise dram from 2.14v to 2.16v ; got error after 15 mins again on core0 with blend in 2nd 8k test.
I tried to run a custom blend test after it and then i set 8k test manually and ran , there was no error in 2nd 8k test this time
I can't understand