"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Mumid]

If I enable it my board (P5Q-E) seems to crash randomly, while booting XP, during surfing,... this E8400 on it does 4ghz at 1.21vcore, I have to set 1.275 in bios to get there without LLC... With LLC even with 1.225 it isn't stable... I flashed back to 1103 and now I can use LLC again on the E mobo... I tried 2 reflashes but prob persists on my mobo...with 1201 bios...

My P5Q dlx has no isues with it at all...

Think i have seen that problem too on my deluxe, sometimes with LLC set the system will randomly reboot for no reason

[DiscoTech]

Thanks!

What about the cpu overclock? is the p5q-d more quad friendly?

Do you think that the Asus 16-phase helps? (Biostar is 4 Phase)

I do not care about the ExpressGate or the overclocking software in Windows.

what is the highest fsb overlock on air that I should expect with a quad on this motherboard?

[Leeghoofd]

what is the highest fsb overlock on air that I should expect with a quad on this motherboard?

470ish mate for daily ops... but I wouldn't go over 450FSB... think it's more CPU related then mobo wise , I have primed with CPU under water at 500FSB but the excessive voltages (Vcore, PLL and FSB Term voltage) my Qx needs then to be stable is not worth it for me...

[BeastNotro]

I have no issues with LLC on Enabled.

[Mumid]

I have no issues with LLC on Enabled.

Im just testing it now actually since i usually run with it off, will post back with findings

[RAdoxx]

Did you properly install all the ATI drivers mate ?

Yes, I think I did.

Fixed it now by first installing some Microsoft HD Audio update, then installing seperate ATI HDMI drivers.

[Tulû]

Okey, i'll do it.
But now

Vcore : 1.3750
PLL: 1.58
NB: 1.34
FSB TERM. : 1.48
GTL 0/2 , 1/3 : AUTO
GTL NB : AUTO
Stable for about 45 mins.(small FFTs)

As you said ; if it gives error again i'll change NB GTL REF.
Is there any danger to set the GTL REFs for CPU to AUTO ?

Stable for about 3 hours and 25 minutes with small FFTs from 8K to 64K.
Should i run Large FFTs ?
Generally i play games and surf.
Do i need to run Large FFTs ?

[Seanie's Show]

If I enable it my board (P5Q-E) seems to crash randomly, while booting XP, during surfing,... this E8400 on it does 4ghz at 1.21vcore, I have to set 1.275 in bios to get there without LLC... With LLC even with 1.225 it isn't stable... I flashed back to 1103 and now I can use LLC again on the E mobo... I tried 2 reflashes but prob persists on my mobo...with 1201 bios...

My P5Q dlx has no isues with it at all...



Did you properly install all the ATI drivers mate ?

Yup I have the -E too, and seem to be having issues with stability on it too, mainly on the memory side of things, I cant seem to get what used to be good overclocking RAM, stable, and it seems to be with both 1201 and 1103, I have reverted back to the best bios I know of to date for this board which is 1003, and amazingly, my RAM is overclocking and memtesting fine, so much for improved memory compatability in 1201 and 1103, they might of improved some in it but they seem to of lost a load of others in the process.

[Bedcommando]

Has anyone played with skews on this board at all? I find at 450fsb cpu skew 400 and 100 nb skew appear to make everything feel more efficient although I don't see anything in benchmark results. As for dram skews... has anyone touched these? From what I can understand it adjusts for the different trace path lengths in the dimms. Helpful for duel channel. Has anyone played with the yellow slot skews (1 and 3)?

oh and i'm still with bios 0803. The newer ones make my system wonky.

[Polizei]

Everything in the code is for:
- E6600
- P5Q-Deluxe
- 1x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 (killed a stick recently, have 2x2GB G.Skill on order)
- eVGA 8800GT
- Silverstone Olympia 650w

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 378
PCI-E Frequency: 103 (trying 105 now)
DRAM Frequency: 757
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

[2nd and 3rd information for RAM is ALL AUTO]

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.5
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .695
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .695
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB Voltage: 1.18
NB GTL Reference: .665
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
[In the 1201 BIOS, I have something here set to "Optimization"]

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

For the life of me, I can't get this thing stable at 3.4GHz. On my old crap DFI Inifnity 975x board, I could do 3.4GHz daily. Are my voltages too low?

[Big Lar]

Everything in the code is for:
- E6600
- P5Q-Deluxe
- 1x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 (killed a stick recently, have 2x2GB G.Skill on order)
- eVGA 8800GT
- Silverstone Olympia 650w

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 378
PCI-E Frequency: 103 (trying 105 now)
DRAM Frequency: 757
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

[2nd and 3rd information for RAM is ALL AUTO]

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.5
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .695
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .695
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB Voltage: 1.18
NB GTL Reference: .665
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
[In the 1201 BIOS, I have something here set to "Optimization"]

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

For the life of me, I can't get this thing stable at 3.4GHz. On my old crap DFI Inifnity 975x board, I could do 3.4GHz daily. Are my voltages too low?

"Max CPUID Value Limit: Enabled"

Shouldn't that be disabled?

Larry

[Polizei]

Hmm... maybe I missed that. I didn't write down the settings from that CPU page, just the AI Tweaker page. I tried to do that other page from memory...

I'll go back and check.

EDIT: CPUID Value Limit was DISABLED to start with.

[truehighroller]

Well I received the right chips and I still get lockups on 1201..It is a communication error between the hard drives and the board for some reason on the newer bios now but, again I was on the 1102 fine before I pushed it to hard and lost her. I trhink it might be something on my hard drives TBH. I need to talk to western digital and see what they think.

[Polizei]

Orthos failed after 30min.

Can someone explain to me wht the GTLref and PLL voltages do? I've raised them and they've bought me extra time in Orthos but I don't know the meaning behind them.

[truehighroller]

I don't know what your settings are supposed to be but they have to do with your processor as far as I know. I have mine set to .63, .63, and 1.56 and it is rock solid but you have a .65nm so it is different I know that.

[Loser777]

Your Qx does 4.0GHz with no voltage increase from stock?

[truehighroller]

Do the Velociraptors work well with this board because honestly I am tired of Raid issues with these drives?

[golfjam]

Do the Velociraptors work well with this board because honestly I am tired of Raid issues with these drives?

No probs here.

[CryptiK]

Besides issues when running Orthos do you have any other issues like when playing games exc..? If not then I say chalk it up to bug in Orthos because I had issue with Prime running large but could run small all day and my setup was stable as can be and I chalked it up to the program being buggy with the board. I can run the Intel burn test thing and it clears the test at my setting in my sig with no issues at all. I had to bump my nb voltage to 1.28 but, I had it at 1.26 so nothing big. That's my 2 cents any way.

It is strange though, I am of the belief that a PC should be able to run anything for any length of time if it is indeed stable. If it cannot, and the software has been proven stable on may other setups, including others using the very same board, I think the hardware is at fault.

Are you running with LLC enabled? Could be that idle volts are not enough so your system reboots. Try upping your cpu volts up a notch and see if it still does it.

No I don't use LLC, I think droop is necessary. I have tried upping it one notch, but I will try one more, however if the cpu was causing it, wouldn't it fail small FFT rather than pass it and instead fail large FFT like it is doing?

I have to try that linpack program and see what it says. I can game for hours with no issues and the machine is stable under all circumstances except orthos large FFT (have not tried blend though, but I would assume when the FFT length approached that of Large FFT setting it would fail after awhile).

Also, I still cannot boot the ram between DDR 1200 & 1275 MHz. However I can boot at DDR 1277 all of a sudden, like it comes out of a hole. Very weird behaviour. I think my board is damaged somehow, as I have tried every bios from 610 to 1201 and all do the same thing.

[Tulû]

Stable for about 3 hours and 25 minutes with small FFTs from 8K to 64K.
Should i run Large FFTs ?
Generally i play games and surf.
Do i need to run Large FFTs ?

No help ?

[Martin.v.r]

Bios 1103
E8600 @ 4.6GHZ strap 333 mem 1105MHZ CellshockPC8000 CL4 = 5-5-5-15 / 5-5-5-12 2.3v best time in superpi 10.750.
I buy new mem to day G.skill PC8000 CL4 = 4-4-4-5 fast TEST 1105MHZ 4-4-4-8 2.3v superpi 10.094.
I hope they can help me,whit 500x10 fsb an,perhaps more

[Leeghoofd]

No help ?

Stability is depending on ya own preferences mate, some prefer 12 hours prime small FFT's and then afterwards large, some run an OCCT test cpu and mixed, some do superpi runs, some do benchmarks, some make a mix... if the rig is stable in daily usage and you don't experience any anomalies consider it stable for your usage... I find it absolutely waste of time and cycles to prime for such extended periods but to each his own not even considering the extra load on ya pc's components

Bios 1103
E8600 @ 4.6GHZ strap 333 mem 1105MHZ CellshockPC8000 CL4 = 5-5-5-15 / 5-5-5-12 2.3v best time in superpi 10.750.
I buy new mem to day G.skill PC8000 CL4 = 4-4-4-5 fast TEST 1105MHZ 4-4-4-8 2.3v superpi 10.094.
I hope they can help me,whit 500x10 fsb an,perhaps more

I run the same ram kit here for testing, mine cap out at 1240mhz... sadly for you the P45 is not a SuperPi slasher... hope high FSB can do it for ya...

[PortCitySlim]

Does anyone know if this heatsink will fit on the P5Q Dlx?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835207004

Been thinking about upgrading to something better then the Zalman and also thinking about using a liquid metal pad...
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/colimeforamd.html


Does anyone have any tips about this stuff? Considering the Sunbeam vs the TRUE because of this review here..
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

[Tulû]

Stability is depending on ya own preferences mate, some prefer 12 hours prime small FFT's and then afterwards large, some run an OCCT test cpu and mixed, some do superpi runs, some do benchmarks, some make a mix... if the rig is stable in daily usage and you don't experience any anomalies consider it stable for your usage... I find it absolutely waste of time and cycles to prime for such extended periods but to each his own not even considering the extra load on ya pc's components

Okey,
i got you .
Thanks.

[RejZoR]

I usually start compressing huge size of files with 7-zip and Orthos Mixed mode at the same time. If it doesn't fail that it'll most probably be 100% stable for everything youdo usually.