Official HD4870X2 (R700) Review Thread

[spursindonesia]

Dang, only 32 A on 12v rails combined, that's rather gimpy for a modern 500w unit, i must say you should upgrade your PSU as well, since i've heard numerous complaint about Enermax PSU circa 05-08 before the introduction of Pro and Modu 82+ series, regarding their durability under consistent high load. That HD 4870X2 could pull 20 A alone on its peak load, while your PSU has stated that it has 20 A as the OCP of each of its 12v rails, so that unit is simply not adequate for its intended purpose.

[Leeghoofd]

Had no issues with my 620 liberty with 2 8800GTS in SLI, 2HDDs, 2 Optical drives , evGA 780i and Qx9650 @4ghz...but with this monster 700 watt and more amps might be a better choice...

[XSAlliN]

Jen-Hsun Huang (NVIDIA): ''We Underestimated ATi RV770''

We underestimated the price performance of our competitor’s most recent GPU, which led us to mis-position our fall lineup. The first step of our response was to reset our price to reflect competitive realities. Our action put us again in a strong competitive position but we took hard hits with respect to our overall GPU ASPs and ultimately to our gross margins. The price action was particularly difficult since we are just ramping 55-nanometer and the weak market resulted in taking longer than expected to work through our 65-nanometer inventory.

No kidding, Einstein!

[Linchpin]

Well at least he admitted it.

[XSAlliN]

Guess nVidia had big financial problems, since they only needed 300$ to test the competitors product and find a way around it. They should have just asked for a Donation, with all nVidia fans it wouldn't be to difficult to raise 300$. Instead they waited for some reviews and only then took some action.

[chaos_being]

Does flickering happens? because CF in crysis flat setting(all very high or else) will result flickering in previous CFing 38xx or 48xx but not with 3870X2. Is the same thing happened now? i mean X2 flickering free? ...thanx

Yeah, good question. I saw mention of someone having a flickering problem with the 4870x2 here- http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1336452 Has anyone else experienced this with the new x2 as well?

The one and only time I tried crossfire (x1900xt's) my display flickered like mad, and I've stayed away from multi-gpu setups since then. But, I'd really like to upgrade to a 4870x2 for the performance boost...

[AndrewL1950]

my 4870 is doing fine for my 24" 1920x1200 resolution, no point in spending 600 bucks now when in 6 months a newer card will arive, 40nm. If you already have a GTX or a 4850/4870 IMO its better to wait till early next year. No new games coming out anyway. Anything that comes is a console port which even an 8800GTX should still be holding ground.

An 8800GT will still be able to play games in 1-2 years.

I mean a 7900GS with a X2-4200 can play COD4 with 30FPS+.

[jam2k]

Yeah, good question. I saw mention of someone having a flickering problem with the 4870x2 here- http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1336452 Has anyone else experienced this with the new x2 as well?

The one and only time I tried crossfire (x1900xt's) my display flickered like mad, and I've stayed away from multi-gpu setups since then. But, I'd really like to upgrade to a 4870x2 for the performance boost...

I've also owned X1900XT Crossfire and experienced flickering with single card too.

It was very noticeable when using my HDTV as secondary display.

Flickering was supposed to be gone with 2900 series. My current 3870x2 doesn't have this problem.

I hope this to be a driver / isolated problem.

[non]

Yeah, good question. I saw mention of someone having a flickering problem with the 4870x2 here- http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1336452 Has anyone else experienced this with the new x2 as well?

The one and only time I tried crossfire (x1900xt's) my display flickered like mad, and I've stayed away from multi-gpu setups since then. But, I'd really like to upgrade to a 4870x2 for the performance boost...

Yes, Im very curious about this because only happens in vista crysis flat setting....XP flat will do fine. So i need to set medium flat first before changing everything else, that way object quality will always stay med while the others h/vh. But this thing doesnt work if I did otherwise..start from high/very high & work my way to medium. Even when i reach the same setting with medium flat first

It's very odd though....only CF but not X2

[Eniqmah]

We underestimated the price performance of our competitor’s most recent GPU, which led us to mis-position our fall lineup. The first step of our response was to reset our price to reflect competitive realities. Our action put us again in a strong competitive position but we took hard hits with respect to our overall GPU ASPs and ultimately to our gross margins. The price action was particularly difficult since we are just ramping 55-nanometer and the weak market resulted in taking longer than expected to work through our 65-nanometer inventory.

2 years of sitting on your ass and rehashing old technology to rip off your customers. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say: OMG, STFU and get to work make us a decent card at a decent price. "Can of whoop ass", pfft.

[ether.real]

Does flickering happens? because CF in crysis flat setting(all very high or else) will result flickering in previous CFing 38xx or 48xx but not with 3870X2. Is the same thing happened now? i mean X2 flickering free? ...thanx

No flickering here.

[JumpingJack]

I am seeing flickering, but only at 1280x1024 resolution.

[Leeghoofd]

2 years of sitting on your ass and rehashing old technology to rip off your customers. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say: OMG, STFU and get to work make us a decent card at a decent price. "Can of whoop ass", pfft.

There's no need to buy a GFX card each 4 months once there's a new one released... some expect always revolution but all we got was a small evolution... Be honest was there the need to lauch something that wasn't totally required then and would kill there own lineup ?
We will see what they can come up with to get at an equal performance level than this ATI beauty.... I think everyone agrees that at least prices are way more affordable now then a year(s) ago... you can get a wide range of high end cards from each competitor in the medium price class now (comparing to a few years back)... and even the midrange cards run most games pretty fast...

[Macadamia]

Let's reward AMD finally pushing technology by buying temporarily cheaper nVidia cards!

Errr...

[Unbornchild]

2 years of sitting on your ass and rehashing old technology to rip off your customers. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say: OMG, STFU and get to work make us a decent card at a decent price. "Can of whoop ass", pfft.

Why?
Just buy the ATI card and get over it.

[RaZz!]

There's no need to buy a GFX card each 4 months once there's a new one released... some expect always revolution but all we got was a small evolution... Be honest was there the need to lauch something that wasn't totally required then and would kill there own lineup ?
We will see what they can come up with to get at an equal performance level than this ATI beauty.... I think everyone agrees that at least prices are way more affordable now then a year(s) ago... you can get a wide range of high end cards from each competitor in the medium price class now (comparing to a few years back)... and even the midrange cards run most games pretty fast...

recently, i've compared the prices of my old cpu/gpu to the new ones:
a64 4000+ (san diego) - 380 € | q9550 - 250 €
7800gt - 360 € | 4850 - 135 €
= 740 € | = 385 €

that's a huge difference. memory was also double the price, i've payed only 69 € for my 4gb 1000mhz ddr2...
mainboards are about the same though.

[clonez]

jep, the development is absolutely fantasic

cant see stuff getting any cheaper, its the perfect time to buily a new pc....

[Cooperdale]

Does anybody have problems with CCC on Vista64? I tried all possible drivers for the card but the CCC always crashes no matter what.

[Shakti]

No probs here having card since a few days, driver taken from cd. Only thing running extra\together with CCC is d3d overrider for vsync under vista x64. So far so good.

[ether.real]

Does anybody have problems with CCC on Vista64? I tried all possible drivers for the card but the CCC always crashes no matter what.

No issue here. Sometimes CCC does not install right for whatever reason. Uninstall with DriverCleaner .NET, update .NET framework and try again.

[Cooperdale]

No issue here. Sometimes CCC does not install right for whatever reason. Uninstall with DriverCleaner .NET, update .NET framework and try again.

But is it possible to update .NET framework under Vista? I thought not.

[safan80]

But is it possible to update .NET framework under Vista? I thought not.

yeah it is you just grab the newer version.

[billdavis]

for say $550.00ish would 2 9800gx2 be better for the price than 1 4870x2?

[Syn.]

for say $550.00ish would 2 9800gx2 be better for the price than 1 4870x2?

Why?

[perkam]

Why?

Multi GPU SLI or Crossfire is still a disaster. For both the GX2 and the X2.

Single 4870X2 > 4870X2 Crossfire and GX2 SLI because of stability and performance issues.

Perkam