"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[bigcesar]

my max oc:



cant not stabilize to super pi, with this config:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 511
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1280
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]

CPU Voltage: 1.5325
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.710
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.700
CPU PLL Voltage:1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.36
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
ALL DISABLED


I can not climb over the Vcore because they do not have to temperatures...

[Leeghoofd]

probably ya rams capping out mate, try to run in sync here to get higher... many got over 600FSB but rams in sync or even single channel ops... and I hope this is just for a pi run and not for daily use...

[jas420221]

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 475
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1:1 DDR400
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]

CPU Voltage: 1.36
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.6450
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.6450
CPU PLL Voltage:1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.32
NB GTL Reference: .67
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO



My goal is to get 4Ghz stable... Im on custom water, only the CPU and GPU are cooled by the water. What are my max voltage settings for the majors (PLL/VTT/NB etc) under water? I want to keep this chip for at least a year.

I have read A LOT of this thread but I just cant seem to get 4Ghz stable at all, most of the time, I cant even get her to boot.

[jVIDIA]

I have a Q6600 Vid is 1.2875

What do i need to do in order to push it stable @ 3.6ghz.

...

I have a Q6600 Vid = 1.2875 too.

Mate, see my 24/7 settings in my sig

[gurusan]

trying to get my E8500 4.3ghz stable...I think I may need to mess with the GTL voltages but I'm not sure what to do.

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 454
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1138
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: LIGHTER
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage: 1.45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.65
CPU PLL Voltage:1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.08
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

[PortCitySlim]

I am back. Just got done testing my ram and got some ?s
G-Skill PI 8800 1100mhz (rated on 1.8-1.9v)

DRAM Frequency: 1133mhz
Timings: 5-5-5-15, trfc 55
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
SRC: Enabled
Read Training: Auto
Mem OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Light
Transaction Booster: PL7, All Pull ins enabled
NBv: 1.26
FSBv:1.32


This is the weird thing, I ran it 2 hours OCCT Test and it passed, then it benched Everest 9150mb/s and 93.7ns Latency. I then tried a quick Prime81 blend and it BSOD'd my system after 1 hour! So I then ran two more OCCT tests, 1 passed and 1 BSOD. What do I do here? Should I raise my Ram voltage 1 notch to 1.98(2.06-2.07 in reality) I don't know how much is too much when it comes to voltage for this kit, it is DDR2 and tons of DDR2 kits out there are handling 2.2v or more and I have decent heat spreaders on my kit, see here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231194


Last time I increased my voltage from 1.94 to 1.96 It helped me drop 2 whole PL levels, but I love my ram and do not want to burn them up. What do you guys think?

[RejZoR]

This is hilarious. They've removed the 1103 BIOS again.

[Alex-Ro]

Well all we cand do is wait and see...

[TI66ER]

Its still there.

P5Q Deluxe BIOS V1103
Update boot block.

[Martin.v.r]

# 2365
not on UK server

[BeastNotro]

- Ok i just need to know why Super Pi (no matter what version 1.4 or 1.5) crashes on vista 64-bit even when i am at stock CPU settings and such. It will run once, then say next time crashes .. ???? .. Now i only tried to run one instance .. so i try running 4 and set infinity to each one and guess what 1-2 of them crash before 1M test is even half done. Am i mising somthing here or is this normal???

- Jnvidia thks i will try that out and ajust anything that is not same like my ram and volts for it...

[BeastNotro]

Never mind about super PI .......... I found Hyper PI http://www.virgilioborges.com.br/vir...rges/hyperpi/#

Now this program uses similar thinsg as Super Pi actually it is Super Pi, but it allows for 4 instances right off the bat and allows for a snapshot of all 4 instances.

Now the thing is for Vista (no matter what version) you need to shut off 3 things for super PI and Hyper Pi, but the nice thing about Hyper PI is it has these TICK boxes to disable the services to allow it to run NP's.

[Big.Wayne]

What is this Voltage you guys are referring to please?

They are refering to the Vcore used for ocing high FSB on the Intel E8400 Dual Core.

NB Voltage mate

Haha I'm glad I'm not the only person who was confused!

I did think it was NBCore but it's always good to ask if in doubt!

[ReverendMaynard]

Never mind about super PI .......... I found Hyper PI http://www.virgilioborges.com.br/vir...rges/hyperpi/#

Now this program uses similar thinsg as Super Pi actually it is Super Pi, but it allows for 4 instances right off the bat and allows for a snapshot of all 4 instances.

Now the thing is for Vista (no matter what version) you need to shut off 3 things for super PI and Hyper Pi, but the nice thing about Hyper PI is it has these TICK boxes to disable the services to allow it to run NP's.

this proggy stinks man. Caused me all types of problems when I disabled aero with it.

[Big.Wayne]

trying to get my E8500 4.3ghz stable...I think I may need to mess with the GTL voltages but I'm not sure what to do

Hey gurusan, obviously I can't help you with clocking Wolfdale as I have no experience with that silicon yet but I can help you analyse your own findings, like what is the max clock you have so far that is stable? and how was the journey from stock upwards? (i.e what was the main setting that allowed the bulk of the speed boost? vCore or?)

Look like you have pumped PLL and vCore heavily and I also notice you have started dabbling in more advanced memory settings. Have you tried taking the strain off the memory while you work on your max CPU clock, or is that memory set-up nice and loose?

Also is that a new chip or has it been abused by someone before you!

[gurusan]

Hey gurusan, obviously I can't help you with clocking Wolfdale as I have no experience with that silicon yet but I can help you analyse your own findings, like what is the max clock you have so far that is stable? and how was the journey from stock upwards? (i.e what was the main setting that allowed the bulk of the speed boost? vCore or?)

Look like you have pumped PLL and vCore heavily and I also notice you have started dabbling in more advanced memory settings. Have you tried taking the strain off the memory while you work on your max CPU clock, or is that memory set-up nice and loose?

Also is that a new chip or has it been abused by someone before you!

the chip is brand new, I'm the first owner...and I put it in and set vcore to 1.44v and tried clocking to 4.3ghz but it was not stable. I tried stepping the clock down a bit and playing with GTL ratios but to no avail..

so I deleted all my settings and started with 1.408v load to shoot for my max 24/7 clock...I'm not going to run it past this voltage for my 24/7 clocks.

Currently I'm at 4133mhz (435fsb) stable as shown below...and I'm now priming 4.15ghz and if it's stable I think I'll leave it here.

As for my journey upwards from stock, I don't really journey that way lol. I usually just set my highest comfortable voltages and shoot for a high clock and work backwards from there.


And as for my memory, those settings are pretty loose. These OCZ sticks can do around 1200mhz with only 2.18v through them, currently they are running 2.16v (p5q overvolts by .08v) so they still have some headroom.

[BeastNotro]

this proggy stinks man. Caused me all types of problems when I disabled aero with it.

Well ran np's for me so far ran it 8 times now, so maybe its your OS that is giving you issues and not the program or your OC.... lol

Now maybe you ran an earlier version of it too?

I have 64-bit Vista works fine for me.

[Big.Wayne]

I put it in and set vcore to 1.44v and tried clocking to 4.3ghz but it was not stable.

I see, wow your really a rush overclocker gurusan and of course I am the complete opposite!

I would have installed that chip and run it at stock minimum settings for a day or two for observation etc, then I would have started to reduce the vCore lower and lower until I found what the minimum voltage it needed to run prime stable, after finding its *True Stock VID* then its time to overclock, while this method is slower its heaps more methodical and you get to really see how your chip scales as you would be slowly but surely bumping the vCore as you journeyed upwards from stock/undervolt to overclocked/overvolt, you also get to see what is the *sweet-spot* of your chip before you get to that point of diminishing vcore returns.

I wouldn't want to slow down the way you work as it seems you have a new chip every week atm so testing time is limited but I would be interested to know what is the *True stock VID* of your chips before you overclock them and overvolt them to death!

[gurusan]

:p I spose that stuff just isn't really of interest to me. I could care less how low I can put the voltage at stock, I just want the highest clock possible for my target 24/7 voltage and that usually only takes me a few hours to find...although it seems like it's been taking me longer lately as I'm confused by these GTL ratios.

but yeah we all have our own methods....doesn't really matter how you do it as long as you get your desired result.

[Big.Wayne]

Hmmm I see, the thing is, if you were more familiar with your chip and knew how it scaled it would become more clear where the problem lay presently i.e if it clocked to 4100MHz using 1.20vCore and then needed 1.40vCore to do 4150MHz you may get the ideal your chip is maxed and your well past the sweet spot. Scaling aside have you adjusted the reference voltage one at a time and tested slowly, have you tried reducing the multi on the chip to see if there is some weird FSB wall (unlikely but!) or have you leapfrogged a number of FSB-MHz in case there is some FSB-Pit lol

[gurusan]

yeah but I don't really care about the sweet spot. If I can gain 20mhz by raising to 1.4v from 1.3v then I'll do it. 1.4v is fine, it's not as if temps are a problem.

And yeah I've used different multis and I have found no fsb holes yet.

[BeastNotro]

Ah just pump 3.0 Vcore in to her and see what shes got.... lmao

[Big.Wayne]

I don't really care about the sweet spot. If I can gain 20mhz by raising to 1.4v from 1.3v then I'll do it.

Ok Gurusan I will leave you in peace, I can see I'm not helping. Key thing aside from the technical settings is a large amount of patience!

I'm stuck on an overclock myself so I'm gonna post back in a while with more info, good luck m8!

[bigcesar]

Hello
I'm having trouble detecting the temperature of E8400



realtemp core temp and are stuck at a temperature and do not move in either idle or cn oc
SpeedFan moves the mark but very low temperatures (15 degrees am with environment and a Zalman 9700nt) and from what I read could be the TCAS (tc)

prolems the BIOS processor or programs?

PD: vid in coretemp 1.225 and real temp 1.15??

[Big.Wayne]

Hey bigcesar, it seems early Wolfdales were BETA and had one or two small issues, the incorrect or Stuck DTS has been corrected on INTEL's latest E0 stepping (by all accounts).

New Wolfdale Processor Stepping: Core 2 Duo E8600 Review