AMD 45nm Deneb Pictures, CPU-Z and Super Pi Results

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Funny to see how lots of people post their Yorkfield results in AMD threads to say Agena is crap, but if an Intel (talking about a Conroe-L) user does the opposite it's bad?

Not bad at all, just funny to make a dual-quad-45nm-65nm-highend-lowend comparison.

Anyway, it's bad anyway, just find it funny this is the first time someone critizes it not being an AMD user. However, you do the same with your C2D remark:

4Ghz at 1.33V for a Dual Core with High/k and metal gates that is which had quite some improvements/steppings already. This Voltage on an ES 45nm Quad without High/k and metal gates, I think it's very impressive

I did the same on purpose, to show how illogical that comparison was, hence the

It's not superb, but if you remember where we're coming from, B2 Phenoms, B3 Phenoms + SB600... Basicly all B3's (if not B2's as well) can clock well beyond 3Ghz now. I do hope they get rid of the few flaws in the NB though cause atm it's even slower clock for clock with Agena.

Again, is nice compared to Agena, as I said in my first post. A 6GHz PIII or a 4GHz Athlon are nice too, but useless. I want AMD to be on par with Intel not only in overclocking, but in perfomance too, because that is what matters. I don't have my Intel at 4GHz just for the sake of it, I have it like that because I want/need that perfomance. You have your Phenom at 2,50GHz for the same reason right?

Why don't you try a quadcore comparison?
Ironically hypocritical.

1. Because there are no E0 quadcores yet.
2. Because I don't have any experience with current Yorkfields, and usually I don't use info from others about something I have not tried myself first. But if you want quad comparisons go ask at what voltages the people in the P5Q Deluxe thread have their quads at 4GHz, crushing Agena/Deneb in perfomance, power consumption and perfomance/watt.

Ironically hypocritical is the fact that some AMD users first cry about Intel being present in AMD threads, and then the same users use Intel in those same threads trying to make AMD look better (and failing). I don't care as a happy Intel user, but way to go