Quote Originally Posted by Rammsteiner View Post
K10 based on K8!?

WTF dude, Nehalem is based on Celeron then?

Besides that, sub zero cooling isnt a good way to get the best out of AMD. Only sometimes, but a very stable temp around 20C works a whole lot better.

Since 3.7Ghz has been reached before on Agena I see no good reason why 4Ghz is out of order for Deneb.
Well, isn't it? K10 is just improved K8, just as K8 was improved K7. K10 isn't a totally new architecture. Bulldozer will be.

The newest Celerons are based on Core architecture. Nehalem architecture is based on Core too with some big improvements (kind of similar to K7->K8: an IMC, killing off FSB). So, Nehalem is indirectly based on Celeron. I know, it sounds a little bit stupid.