"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Zeus]

You'd best rule out your mem first by running memtest, instable or broken memory often cause BSOD's.

Good luck finding the culprit.

[intarweb]

Leeghoofd, did you happen to see my posts? I just need some help figuring out if I have a defective board or not so that way I can return it within the return window (which ends very soon; possibly today, I may have to check >.<)

[Leeghoofd]

Leeghoofd, did you happen to see my posts? I just need some help figuring out if I have a defective board or not so that way I can return it within the return window (which ends very soon; possibly today, I may have to check >.<)

Have you tried updating to a newer bios ?
The sound is okay now according one of your posts, so it must have been a driver issue as hardare probs don't go away all of the sudden...

For ya vidcard fading issue, which graphics card are we talking about ? which game ? do you have issues in other games too ? seems again driver/game related...

I'm no wizard, I just analyze and try to think logic, don't shoot me if it turns out to be ya mobo... but you had issues too with the E and ya ram, did you try a newer bios on that board ? or did you run it out of the box ?

Plz list all ya hardware and drivers so we all can have a look at it...

[ThugsRook]

Is it possible it could be something to do with media center? it seems to bsod more when that is running.

please post a complete template of your current bios settings.

[TI66ER]

Here they are,thanks guys

fsb---------------------------400
FSB Strap to North Bridge:----400
PCI-E Frequency:--------------101
Dram Freq--------------------1066
Dram timing control--------manual
cas latency---------------------5
dram ras to cas delay-----------5
dram ras precharge--------------5
dram ras activate--------------16
ras to ras delay-------------auto
row refresh cycle time-------auto
read to precharge time-------auto
---------------------------------
read to write delay----------auto
write to read delay----------auto
write to read delay(s)-------auto
write to read delay(d)-------auto
read to read delay(s)--------auto
read to read delay(d)--------auto
write to write delay(s)------auto
write to write delay(s)------auto
write to write delay(d)------auto
---------------------------------
write to pre delay-----------auto
read to pre delay------------auto
pre to pre delay-------------auto
all pre to act delay---------auto
--------------------------------
DRAM Static Read Control:disabled
DRAM Read Training:----------Auto
MEM. OC Charger:-------------Auto
AI Clock Twister:------------Auto
AI Transaction Booster:------auto
---------------------------------
CPU Voltage:--------------1.4250V
All CPU GTL Voltage Reference:Auto
CPU PLL Voltage:-------------auto
FSB Termination Voltage:-----1.3v
DRAM Voltage:----------------2.2v
NB Voltage:-----------------1.20v
NB GTL Reference:------------Auto
SBridge Voltage:------------1.10v
PCIE SATA Voltage:-----------auto

Load Line Calibration:------disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum:-----Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum:----Disabled
CPU Clock Skew:--------------auto
NB Clock Skew:---------------auto

Advanced CPU Settings: All Disabled except execute bit disable

I had these-
MEM. OC Charger:-------------Auto
AI Clock Twister:------------Auto
AI Transaction Booster:------auto

on their lowest settings,then i put them on auto and ran memtst,it passed 1 full test and i got 1 error on test 4 on the second pass.The ram is a few weeks old,that i got back from an rma.I have not ran it higher than 1066/2.2v since i got it back.It is pc8500 single sided tracers-BL12864AL1065.8FE5

Before i put them settings on auto,i ran mem test and it had loads of errors straight away nearly.

[Abraxas2008]

Guys,

I need some feedback from you folks.

I am using BIOS 1102 Beta + P5Q Deluxe + E3110.

I know I got unlucky with my processor, the VID=1.225.

At 7.5 x 500 (3.75Ghz) I can run prime stable 24hrs blend and small fft's while using 1.350V CPU Vcore set in bios, CPU-Z shows 1.338 idle and load.

Temps are 36 idle and 58 load with Sunbeamtech Core Contact Freezer in a Stacker 830 Evo case with 8 120mm fans (good air flow).

I can get to 8.0 x 500 (4.0Ghz, which is what I want) and prime stable 24hrs blend and small fft's but must use 1.4125V CPU Vcore set in bios, CPU-Z shows 1.392 idle and 1.400 load with temps at 39 idle and 63 load.

I do not use my machine 24/7 for like folding, just game on it at nights and music/internet sometimes. Sits idle quite a bit.

Here is my question ... since this is a 45nm CPU is 1.4V and 63 temps at load safe or should I bump it back down to 1.350 with 250mhz loss?

Input is appreciated.

Thanks

Abraxas

[ThugsRook]

Here they are,thanks guys

try these settings to get ya going...

FSB Strap to North Bridge:----333
DRAM Read Training:----------ENABLED
MEM. OC Charger:-------------ENABLED
Execute Disabled Bit:------DISABLED

[TI66ER]

Thanks.

I will just use the closest setting on the 333 divider my ram will run at.

I will post back tommorow and let you know how it is going.

[PortCitySlim]

Since you are running a 65nm quad I don't see any problem in high voltages regarding Vcore nor PLL... but it's an interesting question... Only thing I would look into are ya temps... hows does the Zalman cope with ya CPU ? what voltages does ya CPU require for eg for 200mhz less ? so 8 x 400 ? or even 10 x 333 ? If the cores go over 60°C I would consider a beefier cooler there... could be you need less voltages then for 12 hour stability...

And to be honest, I never run Prime Small over 6 hours or so... then I run an OCCT 2 hour, first CPU then Ram and finally mix in a row... some 3dmarks and finally 4 superpi 32mb runs at the same time... till now no weird erratic behaviour with none of my CPU's...

Something I have been thinking about today is if I should go down to 10x333. Some weeks ago before I knew how to set most of my voltages I had 10x333 stable with most voltages on auto at 1.38vcore vs what I now need 1.41vcore for 8x425. I went ahead and fired it up(10x333) using 1.375vcore/1.56PLL and 1.24NB/1.28VTT with LLC enabled. Only had this running for about 30mins but the temps are not that different vs 1.41, only about a 2C drop. On small fft's test's my temps get up to 57C for 1.37 and 59C for 1.41 on the hottest cores. For me it will be a decision of how well my memory can perform at each FSBxMulti. For 333fsb I can run my memory at 1111mhz 3:5 and for 425fsb I can run at 1133mhz 3:4 both at 1.9v maybe lower. I think the extra heat from more vcore is not that bad but I would like to go from Static Read control disabled to enabled and possibly using the MemOC charger plus maybe setting the AI Clock twister and transaction booster to really push my memory at 1133mhz, but first I need to learn these settings better. What would you do, I really want to run faster then 3.2ghz and I would like to push my memory to it's limit. I now know about where I need to be in terms of voltage for my CPU it is only a matter of choosing best combo for my memory Thanks

Edit: After thinking about it I think I am going to leave it at 8x425 and try some new settings for my ram. I looked through some other posts and thing I want to try...
5-5-5-15, trfc 55 and 1.9v
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled(currently disabled)
DRAM Read Training: Auto
Mem OC Charger: Enabled(Currently Auto)
Ai Clock Twister: Strong or Stonger(Currently Auto)
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
I guess I will try to get it to pass here with memtest86 and then try to pass 2 hour OCCT ram test. I just want to boost my performance since at my current settings my system is stable and I would like to see if I can push my ram a bit harder.

[spajdr]

I have been having some difficulties with the P5Q Deluxe and over clocking it. I have ran programs like SP2004, Prime95, OCCT, and Memtest84+ and have not been able to find anything unstable. However even a small over clock on my q6600 G0 (2.8 was the lowest I was having instability at) the OS behaves strangely and games will freeze and require a hard reboot. Could I be having difficulties with Vista 64 and stability testing?

Try 5-5-5-20 timings

[intarweb]

Have you tried updating to a newer bios ?
The sound is okay now according one of your posts, so it must have been a driver issue as hardare probs don't go away all of the sudden...

For ya vidcard fading issue, which graphics card are we talking about ? which game ? do you have issues in other games too ? seems again driver/game related...

I'm no wizard, I just analyze and try to think logic, don't shoot me if it turns out to be ya mobo... but you had issues too with the E and ya ram, did you try a newer bios on that board ? or did you run it out of the box ?

Plz list all ya hardware and drivers so we all can have a look at it...

nVidia 7900GS
P5Q Deluxe
4x1GB 800MHz DDR2
Q9450

The sound seems to be mostly ok, although I sometimes get some pops/clicks in Teamspeak while playing a game. I think the vidcard issue may be driver-related although I'm not sure. I noticed I can reliably induce the effect when pushing under the ground in spectate mode in some HL2 mod maps where there is white under the ground. I guess it's basically a blind/HDR effect that I'm seeing.

[Ronin777]

Try 5-5-5-20 timings

Thanks for the input Spajdr, but I found out what was wrong. My psu had to be mounted upside down for the mrc320 to fit off the back of my case and it was causing the psu to overheat under a over clocked full load. So I've got a larger case on order now and I am running at 3.2 @ 1.4v.

[Gr1mR34p3r]

Is 25MB/s burst rate in Nero DiscSpeed normal? I get 40MB/s on ICH9 motherboard. I tried all possible UDMA modes, I have SATA set to IDE, I checked Device Manager, DMA is enabled and it is set to UDMA5. I even tried SATA drivers, but I guess they are for that orange SATA7/8, my drives are on SATA4/5.
Hard drive burst is ok, just DVD-RW burst is too low (on both drives).

[spajdr]

Thanks for the input Spajdr, but I found out what was wrong. My psu had to be mounted upside down for the mrc320 to fit off the back of my case and it was causing the psu to overheat under a over clocked full load. So I've got a larger case on order now and I am running at 3.2 @ 1.4v.

Hehe, good you find solution
I will remember this for future tips why something isnt stable

[Polizei]

Heat can always be a reason too... doesn't have to be processor...

[scottk]

Anyone use loadline calibration? I've heard that on other boards it can lead to instability but what about the P5Q-Dlx?

This board clocks ram really well, I'm stable at 1125MHz at 1.90v set in bios.

I have better stability with loadline calibration enabled.

[RejZoR]

Loadline lowers vdroop...

[ThugsRook]

Loadline lowers vdroop...

it does more then lower vdroop, it inverts it.

it also might give you a false sense of "im only running 1.3v!"

...no, youre not

[RejZoR]

Yeah, it slightly increases it...

[ThugsRook]

Yeah, it slightly increases it...

yes.
the CPU will need the same voltage under full load weather LLC is enabled or not. 1.3v with LLC enabled is more like 1.4v in reality (LLC disabled).
so yes, it would seem to as tho it magicly gives stability


voltage being inverted, LLC enabled can also leave you unstable during idle and low load conditions.

[intarweb]

Leeghoofd,

New symptom. Getting static in the sound until I restarted, on just about everything.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I'm using the digital output to an external d/a converter.

[PortCitySlim]

Does anyone know what the latest version of Prime95 and OCCT are. I have Prime95 25.6 and OCCT 2.0.0a. I also wanted to get SuperPi but I have vista64 and am not sure if any versions are compatible, if there is a version for vista64 please give me link to where I can download it from. Thanks

[RejZoR]

Use HyperPi under Vista instead. It's the same thing, just compatible with Vista...

[gurusan]

superpi works just fine under vista 64

[PortCitySlim]

Use HyperPi under Vista instead. It's the same thing, just compatible with Vista...

Thanks, where is the best place to pick up the latest version of HyperPi?