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    Quote Originally Posted by terrace215 View Post
    C0? C1? I guess it must've qual'd at this point if they are bringing the launch into Sept/early Oct.
    I am guessing C2,3 maybe even in a D series. This is a pretty aggressive lurch for Intel.
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    Why start with 2 or 3, when you can with 0 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    I am guessing C2,3 maybe even in a D series. This is a pretty aggressive lurch for Intel.

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    ...btw, how is nehalem pronounced correctly? ne-ha-lem? ne-hale-em? am just wondering all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    ...btw, how is nehalem pronounced correctly? ne-ha-lem? ne-hale-em? am just wondering all the time
    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=fet-Tr...eature=related

    7 secs in to the vid.

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    Some preliminary typo for ref ...


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    i wonder how much performance impact the faster QPI has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    i wonder how much performance impact the faster QPI has.
    Nothing I say. Or close to nothing. Maybe if you have 4 GPUs and 12 disks and 12 USB devices
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    For uniprocessor platforms probably none. HyperTransport clocks doesn't make much of a difference for AMD at least. Besides, either one of those are on an entirely different scale than the FSB.. If it turns out to make a difference, just overclock. It's not stocksystems.org is it?

    Now JC is just making me wonder what he's blanked out above 'Turbo' there...

    Also, does this mean 'Turbo Mode' is confirmed in some way on the desktop or are they still deciding whether or not to include it (TBD)? It seems like it'd fit their 'dynamic, scalable' thing quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    That\'s the way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    Nothing I say. Or close to nothing. Maybe if you have 4 GPUs and 12 disks and 12 USB devices
    lol. wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    NO WAY MAN!!! Wrong, just how some people called it fe-num, while i stand by Pheee-nom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingcarcas View Post
    NO WAY MAN!!! Wrong, just how some people called it fe-num, while i stand by Pheee-nom.
    Pronounce phenomenal and leave off the enal

    fe - nom (short e)...

    Pheeeenom sounds like a urinary disorder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    ...btw, how is nehalem pronounced correctly? ne-ha-lem? ne-hale-em? am just wondering all the time
    Call the city chamber of commerce:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem,_Oregon

    ask them how they pronounce their own town. It is near the Nehalem river, which Intel will often (not always) use river names geographically located near one of their sites as code names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    Now JC is just making me wonder what he's blanked out above 'Turbo' there...

    Also, does this mean 'Turbo Mode' is confirmed in some way on the desktop or are they still deciding whether or not to include it (TBD)? It seems like it'd fit their 'dynamic, scalable' thing quite well.
    Sorry, that blanked part is SMT , My mistake to cover it wrong ...

    TURBO is still TBD for 1S, but 2s is already fixed ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Hmm...6sec in Wprime32 @ 2GHz is a little bit weaker then a Skulltrail at 4Ghz
    Nah, I got 5 sec 920ms with a dual harpertown at 3603mhz
    That Nehalem score is impressive as all hell at 2ghz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Nah, I got 5 sec 920ms with a dual harpertown at 3603mhz
    That Nehalem score is impressive as all hell at 2ghz
    Probably i'm wrong ,but wasn't it actually a 2S geinstown@3Ghz that scored 6s in wprime?I'm looking at page 30 i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooper View Post
    lol. wrong
    They are 24-32GB per link, 12-16GB/sec per direction.

    So something like 2 cards wont do squat for sure. We dont even have much problem today with some 8-12GB/Sec link with memory on top (FSB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCornell View Post
    Sorry, that blanked part is SMT , My mistake to cover it wrong ...

    TURBO is still TBD for 1S, but 2s is already fixed ...
    'Turbo' is this thing I read about where it will clock down other cores and increase the clock on one or two cores to boost performance in less threaded apps while staying within the TDP? Or something different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    'Turbo' is this thing I read about where it will clock down other cores and increase the clock on one or two cores to boost performance in less threaded apps while staying within the TDP?
    jup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    'Turbo' is this thing I read about where it will clock down other cores and increase the clock on one or two cores to boost performance in less threaded apps while staying within the TDP? Or something different?
    Exactly.
    The NHM is the 1st CPU that is aware of its own TDP. This is a very interesting feature, but that also limits the "external" control on it. Whatever clock and voltage setting you apply, the CPU keeps having the last word.
    In HWMonitor I tried to show the CPU TDP as it sees it, but I'm not completely sure how accurate this is.


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    Sounds like a candidate for BIOS makers to me.

    If the greatest achievement of Nehalem is less control for the user I'll have to wait until they figure out something clever before I jump on it.

    I remember reading this:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...t-on-nehalem/1
    Intel's EIST and C1E states for clock changing to save power will now work 56 percent faster in Nehalem and the chip frequency will also adapt to power supply voltage changes and vDroop - this should make a system ever more stable, but we think it might push enthusiasts into looking for the best motherboards and PSU combinations that completely minimise this clock down effect, especially if it affects performance figures.

    Intel even dropped an interesting titbit that it was thinking about completely decoupling itself from rated frequencies because of the constant clock changes, however it found customers and retailers were very much against this move. Despite the fact that, internally, the CPU is constantly adjusting its clock speed, from the outside it appears like a fixed frequency due to overall averaging. No doubt this continual variation will surely make our job testing hardware reliably that much more difficult though - it depends on the level of clock changes and the quality of motherboard and power supply.

    Finally, Intel also mentions in its documents that the Duty Cycle adapts to transistor variation and lifetime stress - does this mean that even if your CPU isn't made as well as the next guy's, instead of dying outright it will reduce the time that part is working. Does this translate into reducing the core frequency over time?
    Brrrr.

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    Dual Barcelona @2156MHz for comparison
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    hmm so single socket nehalem beats dual socket phenom in cpu/mmx and loses in fpu... this benchmark sure acts strange. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    hmm so single socket nehalem beats dual socket phenom in cpu/mmx and loses in fpu... this benchmark sure acts strange. :p
    Yep strange benchmark,but it ends quickly, at least .
    Anyone care to comment what system scored 6s in wprime?I see you people are talking about 2Ghz 2P Geinstown but all i see is 2x3.07Ghz system in that screenie (page 30) with power saving on...

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